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    Need some quilting help.

    I know this isn't the quilting section, but I am using a vintage machine

    I've mentioned a couple times that I'm making a quilt for each of my aunts using my moms HOTHER. I've got the top done on one and 75% done on the other. When the tops are done then we'll put together the batting and backing for both since they are the same size. So once finished I want to quilt them with the HOTHER also. This might be easier said than done.

    Last night to test the 15-91 I made a small quilt, put batting in it and muslin on the back side. Today using the Alpha Sew walking foot for straight stitch feet I used the HOTHER to try and quilt it.
    Didn't work so good. Unlike the other walking foots I have this one just doesn't seem to want to pull the top with the bottom. And when it hits a seam or a lump it just stalls. I had better luck using the ZZ walking foot on my 66 treadle machine.

    So, I removed the WF and tried an old fashioned solid quilting foot. That helped some, but it schootched the top layer to the point it wadded it up on the end. Scratch that.

    Now what can I do? I want to use the HOTHER, it's a personal thing. But not being an experienced quilter I'm at a loss of what to try next. This small quilt was made just for this so if I have to rip all the quilting out and try something else, no big deal.

    So those that use their vintage machines to quilt with, any suggestions?

    Joe

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    Joe, did you lessen the presserfoot a little with the solid quilting foot.
    Quilting with a friend keeps me in stitches.

    Trish

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    Nope, didn't even think of it. How much should I lighten it up? Do you think that might help with the walking foot?

    Joe

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    Walking feet can vary widely in quality... I tried several before I found one I liked. I loosen the foot pressure a little when I use a WF.
    Even though I have quilted dozens of quilts on old machines, I still have to do a test sandwich beforehand.
    If you have a Minkee back, then you will have to adjust more- same for denim. And each batting has different thicknesses, so test sandwiches are the way to go. How does it do with the regular foot?
    Cil



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    What is a "Minkee back"? I haven't tried it yet with the regular foot. I'll do that in a bit.

    This test quilt is made from the same materials as the big one as far as the top goes. We plan to use the same batting, a polyester batting, and rather than a muslin back we've got a big huge roll of what is either thick soft muslin or flannel. I think more flannel than muslin.

    Joe

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    Oh, what brand of WF did you end up buying and liking?

    Joe

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    Minkee is a supersoft modern fleece material. It is widely used for baby stuff. Most quilts I machine piece have either a minkee, sweatsuit fleece, or polar fleece back because it makes them more snuggly. So my backs are usually 1/4 to 3/8" thick.
    I think I have this one- but it is outside in the studio, sleeting outside so I can't verify.

    http://shop.sew-classic.com/Low-Shan...tch-P60400.htm
    Cil



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    (proud caretaker of a magenta 221, purple 222, assorted 66's, a 301, a pink Atlas and Monarch, and Granny's 201-2.

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    makitmama,

    Thanks for the explanation of Minkee. My wife and I just learned something.

    That is the WF I just got. I tried it again after loosening the foot tension and it didn't work much if any better.
    I also tried the ZZ WF my wife has for her Bernina 930. No idea what brand but it works much better. The walking foot dogs don't match up with the SS feed dogs exactly, but enough that is really grabs and pulls the material. It also has more pronounced teeth on the dogs where as the one from Sew Classic are really fine.

    Joe

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    Yes, unfortunately some brands or generic walking feet are just duds. I haven't had one that I hate, but I can imagine that these generics are sometimes hit or miss. :< I'm sure Jenny would take it back if you're not happy with it. But, I imagine you'll happen upon another machine that you can use it with.

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    Candace,

    Somewhere I saw a listing for a Singer straight stitch WF. I'll be looking for that site. And I'll try the WF from Sew-Classic on a couple machines just to see what it will do. Perhaps it just isn't capable of doing quilts.

    Joe

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    Any decent walkingfoot will do quilts. That's what they're designed to do. You may have just gotten a stinker. Is this the one you have? http://www.april1930s.com/html/walki...herweight.html

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    Yes, that's the one. Only I got it from Sew-Classic. The link is on the first page towards the top.

    Joe

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    Maybe you just got a lemon-foot! That's the one I have and I've used it on my 15-91, my 27 and my 66 with no problems. I think I'd ask for a replacement and give it a try.

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    I got the same WF from Sew-Classic and mine is fine too. I have been using to sew purses and it works fine on a layer of fusible fleece, interfacing, and 3 layers of fabric. I agree, you may have a lemon!

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    What about a FMQ foot? You can sew straight lines with them, in addition to free motion work. They hop up and down so the quilt sandwich isn't pushed around.
    http://www.april1930s.com/html/slant...y___darni.html This is mine, though you don't need slant needle. April and Jenny both have low shank ones. I bet your local LQS carries one. Mine does, but I don't like it as well as this one.

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    Hi Joe,

    I am sure this is the first thing you thought of, but is the foot fitted on to the sewing machine correctly with the black fork over the bit that holds the needle on?

    Clare

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    irishrose,
    I have an original black face Singer version of that. Never thought to try it. I'll add that to my list of things to try.

    Littlebearquiltingboard,
    LOL, yep I made sure the arm was on the needle clamp. Funny you should mention that because some time back with another WF I forgot and the first time the needle bar came down it went KLUNK and jammed up the whole thing. The thread clamp had pinned the arm under itself.

    Joe

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    Hi Joe. So smart of you to do a test sandwich. It's much easier to fix pesky problems with that than once you're working on the quilt. Ask me how I know!

    Two thoughts: I recently got that same SS WF for my 201 and it made a world of difference, so yeah you may have a lemon. It's worth talking Jennie about it. In addition, sometimes machines don't like polyester batting. It's slipperier than cotton batting and may lead to uneven feed. You may want to try another sandwich with a cotton batting, just to see.

    As for the FM foot, personally I wouldn't go that way simply because FMQ requires practice to look good. I can't imagine that doing SITD or any straight line quilting would be easy with a darning foot. But then again, you may be a much better quilter than I am!

    Good luck and keep us posted on your progress!
    Last edited by totosmom; 11-08-2012 at 04:24 AM.
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    The only quilt I've made where I actually quilted it myself was the cover to my Singer 66 #2 treadle. We used the same batting, similar top material and fleece for the bottom.




    I actually quilted that on the treadle using that ZZ WF I mentioned earlier. It worked pretty good.
    All the other quilted covers I made used pre-quilted materials. I just sewed them together.

    I did realize one thing I've done wrong with the test quilt sandwich. When I made it, I stitched it around the edge. That makes it wad up on the edges even with the better of the WFs.

    Joe
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    I do all my quilting on my vintage machines, mostly on a Featherweight. I have plenty of working walking feet, but I prefer to not use them; I get great results with 'regular' feet.
    Since you are wanting to do SID, why not use a SID foot? That's what they are for. Also called an edge-joining foot.
    Stephanie in Mena

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    Stephanie,

    I don't believe I said I wanted to SID. My plans were to do a diamond pattern similar to my machine cover in the pics above. I have two or three SID feet if I need them. Although I've never used them either.

    I'm almost finished with the two tops, just two more long divider strips on the second one. Then on to cutting the batting and back.

    And I'm almost out of time. I need to get them to AZ before Christmas. Eeeeekkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!

    Joe

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    Sorry, Joe. I also use the SID foot for stitching grids, so in my mind, I went right to SID.
    Stephanie in Mena

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    Stephanie,

    Not a problem. And it is a viable option. I have been considering it.

    Joe

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    As you know, there is more than one way to do everything. A lot of people like to use a guide arm on a WF or other foot; I find that it is too easy to accidentally move the guide, so I prefer to mark the top and use the SID foot. Whatever works.
    Stephanie in Mena

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    Both these quilts are the same design. Three blocks of 9 across and three blocks of 9 long with each block separated by a divider strip. There is a larger square in the center of the quilt with a large print of cats on it. Around that we put a trim of each aunts birthday colors. Basically all right angles to the piecing. I was wanting to use the diamond pattern to quilt it to add some dimension to it. I didn't want it to be all squares and straight lines. That's why I wanted to use the WF. But again I'll be trying several things.

    Joe

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