301A Take Up Spring 'catches'

Thread Tools
 
Old 08-10-2013, 07:09 PM
  #1  
Super Member
Thread Starter
 
quiltinghere's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: PROFESSIONAL Longarm Quilter NW Indiana
Posts: 3,400
Question 301A Take Up Spring 'catches'

Tonight I spent some time going over a 301A that needed some attention that hasn't been used in a long time. I think I may have purchased it at a garage sale and never looked at it before ...there were so many small things wrong with it. After some minor cleaning and adjustments (bobbin tension loosened, bobbin finger installed correctly, top tension regulator dismantled and cleaned well (a few times)), the machine stitches are great!

However.....If I put the thread in the very last guide right before the needle the thread would break after it sewed nice stitches for a while. I think this is because....

As I slowly turn the hand wheel I see there's a 'pause' 'hiccup' 'strain on the thread' 'like it's catching on something' AT/ON the Thread Take Up Spring just as the Take Up Lever is reaching for it's highest point.

It still sews nice stiches (without the thread in that last thread guide) but makes a slight 'clicking' noise when the thread hesitates. IF there's an easy fix, I'd like to fix it so it doesn't make for a more expensive fix down the road.

All troubleshooting suggestions welcomed and appreciated.

Nan - IN
quiltinghere is offline  
Old 08-11-2013, 04:00 AM
  #2  
Power Poster
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 15,507
Default

I would tear down the tension, clean it and put it back. If necessary order a new spring on line and replace the old spring. I would also check the bobbin tension but that is what I do every time I clean up one of those old machines.
miriam is offline  
Old 08-11-2013, 04:37 AM
  #3  
Super Member
Thread Starter
 
quiltinghere's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: PROFESSIONAL Longarm Quilter NW Indiana
Posts: 3,400
Default

Thanks Miriam - I did take the tension dial apart at least 3 times because each time I did, it seemed to get a little better. I noticed a little light rust on the discs and buffed it out. Rubbed off the springs too and put a tad bit of oil on metal to metal to make it go back together easier.

How would I know if any of the two springs 'needed' to be replaced? By this issue I'm having?

Thanks again - Nan

Last edited by quiltinghere; 08-11-2013 at 04:39 AM.
quiltinghere is offline  
Old 08-11-2013, 05:03 AM
  #4  
Power Poster
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 15,507
Default

The beehive spring almost never needs to be replaced. The other one may need to be replaced if it has been spring all out of shape, broken or has rust. If it has rust you might have some luck with some chrome cleaner. Very likely, it may not be set right. This wonderful manual can tell you how to set that spring: http://www.tfsr.org/pub/technical_in...echanism_2.pdf Some times when people can't make their sewing machine work they automatically tamper with the tension - at least that is my theory... anyway when they don't know what they are doing they can do a whole lot of harm. I pretty much take all tensions apart and put them back together as I clean - actually saves me a lot of time. Most of the time they don't take very long to do once you learn how. It may also be that you have the tension adjusted too tight. You will need to read every word of that manual about the correct tension for your machine. Do it step by step. When I first started seriously rebuilding tensions, I enlarged the manual at the copy place so I can keep track of each step. That TFSR manual has the best info I know of about setting the little pot, the spring and the post. The rest may well be in your owners manual. Some owner's manuals will show what order the tension parts go together. You may need that to compliment the info in the TFSR manual.
miriam is offline  
Old 08-12-2013, 05:21 AM
  #5  
Super Member
Thread Starter
 
quiltinghere's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: PROFESSIONAL Longarm Quilter NW Indiana
Posts: 3,400
Default

WOW - that's a great manual - I saved it!

I feel pretty good that I cleaned the tension area well and replaced it correctly...but I will check again later this week.

Thank you very much for the info you provided.

Nan
quiltinghere is offline  
Old 08-12-2013, 06:23 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Victorian Sweatshop
Posts: 863
Default

What is that site? I only hope I can get back to it at home. (I'm in Ohio with new grandson). Wow!
redmadder is offline  
Old 08-12-2013, 01:32 PM
  #7  
Power Poster
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 15,507
Default

Tools For Self Reliance
miriam is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
twhvlr
For Vintage & Antique Machine Enthusiasts
13
05-05-2019 07:27 PM
jammyster
For Vintage & Antique Machine Enthusiasts
5
03-14-2017 08:54 PM
Yarn or Fabric
Pictures
14
11-02-2012 04:52 AM
smcfadden
General Chit-Chat (non-quilting talk)
18
09-27-2011 07:59 PM
Ditter43
General Chit-Chat (non-quilting talk)
4
04-26-2011 06:28 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



FREE Quilting Newsletter