Another Machine.lol
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Today I found this nice machine, I am really excited. It came with a partial book. It was stuck but I oiled and greased it and it slowly got to going really well. Has shuttle and bobbins. Hope to sew on it later.
It has Made in Germany, kind of embossed under the black paint on the bed, I put a pic up with the end of the oil spout you can just see it. It is apparently one of many made in one factory and then badged for many names. The book is made for this machine but it is generic for many machines, so probably many names floating around out there. It isn't the best made machine I have ever seen but not too bad. It was really clean except for some dust, but so dry it didn't want to move much.[ATTACH=CONFIG]540337[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]540338[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]540339[/ATTACH] |
What a pretty machine and the decals look wonderful. Congratulations!
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That's really pretty Lynn, congrats!
Cari |
That's an awesome machine! I love the huge access panel on the back. I'd be tempted to leave it off so you can see the parts move.
Rodney |
Nice machine!
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Love it! You've found a beauty.
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Score! Congrats.
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What a beautiful machine. Thanks for sharing.
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What a neat looking machine and it's a hand crank! Is the bobbin winder original to the machine because it just looks odd to me in the photos but that may just be the photo or one I don't remember ever seeing before. It looks like it has a different motion for filling the bobbins. Nice find!
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Looks to be in decent shape!
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Good looking machine!
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Pretty machine! Congrats!
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That's really a beauty. Congratulations!
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Thank you all. The winder does go with the machine. It does look like it doesen't but in the book it is the same thing, different color than the machine, like an add on before they shipped or something.
I do need some help and forgot to ask, does anyone have an idea of what needle I should try in it? My little book doesn't say a word about needles, except it is important to have them sharp and clean! I was about to start sewing with it when I realized I needed a needle.lol Duh, have been watching the Seahawks lose their game, durn it. |
Rodney, I really liked that access panel too, thought it was cute. The book is interesting to me as it shows a picture of the insides of the machine. I love when you have a book for these old machines, this one shows how to thread the shuttle, which I always forget, so I am excited I will have the instructions and will put a copy with the machine. Yippee
Originally Posted by Rodney
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That's an awesome machine! I love the huge access panel on the back. I'd be tempted to leave it off so you can see the parts move.
Rodney |
Very nice machine. I'd have bought it too.
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A very pretty machine. Looks like it would take a 12x1 needle like the Singer New Family or Model 12. Wouldn't hurt to try a 15x1 and DBx1 though the shanks might be too large.
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That is a real beauty.
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Thank you Jon, I shall go try those.
Originally Posted by jlhmnj
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A very pretty machine. Looks like it would take a 12x1 needle like the Singer New Family or Model 12. Wouldn't hurt to try a 15x1 and DBx1 though the shanks might be too large.
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Model 12 needle is a bit of a nuisance, but a while ago I bumped into this blog, where the poster has experimented a bit with needle types and found at least one alternative. If your's take model 12 needle, there might be a way about it.
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Mickey2, I went to that blog and have read part of it but am still reading it, thank you so much. Looks great.
Jon, the Model 12 needle did work, I didn't have any problems putting it in and it sews great, after I figured out how to thread the shuttle. The only thing is they are nearly 2.00 each, so I need to find somewhere I can get needles that work for less money. Does anyone have any ideas? I will still be reading the blog Mickey posted. |
Try the DBx1, I think there's a very good chance they'll work on your Harris. I'd try Organ brand because I know the shank is 1.60mm. Other brands might be 2mm. These are very common, inexpensive industrial needles that might even be available locally just make sure you don't get the 2mm shank.
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Thank you again Jon, will give them a try.
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Originally Posted by KLO
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What a neat looking machine and it's a hand crank! Is the bobbin winder original to the machine because it just looks odd to me in the photos but that may just be the photo or one I don't remember ever seeing before. It looks like it has a different motion for filling the bobbins. Nice find!
[ATTACH=CONFIG]540542[/ATTACH] That is a typical German bobbin winder. Here is the Durkopp Class 4 hand crank that I recently obtained. A dealers stamp "Lewenstein" indicates that it was sold in Amsterdam. Johnm |
Oh my gosh, just beautiful! Lucky you. :thumbup:
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I'm the owner of 'this blog' mentioned in an earlier post. The needles I use in my Singer 12 are a Groz-Beckert size 80/12 DBx1 - note they do not fit all Singer 12 as they have a larger shank than the original 12 needle made by Singer. The Groz-Beckert I believe have a smaller shank than some other DBx1 needles.
Your machine looks lovely and very like the German Vesta TS machines I have. My German TS machines take the normal modern needle 15x1 so it would be worth a try - does your machine have a needle stop at all? If not you will need to adjust the height of the eye to just the right place to get a perfect stitch. Also you need to remember with any round shank needle you need to orient the eye in the correct direction - for a TS machine it needs to face the front. |
Nice! It reminds of Civil War hand cranked machines. What approximate year was it made?
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Originally Posted by johnm
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[ATTACH=CONFIG]540542[/ATTACH] That is a typical German bobbin winder. Here is the Durkopp Class 4 hand crank that I recently obtained. A dealers stamp "Lewenstein" indicates that it was sold in Amsterdam.
Johnm Now I have seen two beautiful machines! Johnm, thanks for posting the photo of your bobbin winder. It looked so different in the original posters photo but maybe that was because it wasn't black as I expected. Well, since I am a good chunk German, it's good to see and know what a typical German bobbin winder looks like. Lol! |
Anneg, thank you for your blog post. I will check out the Groz Beckert needles, that is helpful. I did put the singer 12 needle in and it works great, I just put it in all the way it would go so don't really know if it has a stop or not, didn't look. I know that area is very narrow where the needle goes, someone mentioned I could make that groove bigger if I needed to, something to think about. The manual did say the eye faced front so that was a good thing. I did not know that TS machines the needle faced the front. Thank you. They leave a lot of things out in those manuals, maybe they didn't really know all that much back then about machines.
Someone asked how old the machine is, I don't know, I thought perhaps 20-30's just by guess. Also that is the bobbin winder that came with the machine because it is the same in the manual and it is a diff color in the manual as well, so I just assumed they were attached before leaving the factory. Maybe they had a ton of them made up or something and then just put them on machines. Who knows, just know it is this way in the manual. My machine also has the stitch regulator behind where the bobbin winder is and the bobbin winder is attached to the bed by a screw in that hole by the edge. A bit different than the other hand crank posted. The machine does have made in Germany stamped into it. I am loving all the information, thank you all.
Originally Posted by anneg
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I'm the owner of 'this blog' mentioned in an earlier post. The needles I use in my Singer 12 are a Groz-Beckert size 80/12 DBx1 - note they do not fit all Singer 12 as they have a larger shank than the original 12 needle made by Singer. The Groz-Beckert I believe have a smaller shank than some other DBx1 needles.
Your machine looks lovely and very like the German Vesta TS machines I have. My German TS machines take the normal modern needle 15x1 so it would be worth a try - does your machine have a needle stop at all? If not you will need to adjust the height of the eye to just the right place to get a perfect stitch. Also you need to remember with any round shank needle you need to orient the eye in the correct direction - for a TS machine it needs to face the front. |
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