Attachment check!
 

I bought a new 201-2 today from an estate auction. It came complete with a full cabinet (yay!) With this machine I received a lot of back clamping Greist attachments that I know nothing about. There were also some key hole type hemmers, also new to me. And a lone odd bobbin. What did I get?

[ATTACH=CONFIG]525616[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]525617[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]525618[/ATTACH]
This is the auction link, it should be up for a couple of days. There were 2 treadles, a modern bernina, the 201 I bought, a Wilcox and Gibbs, a Western Electric, and some other random small machines. http://www.aoauctions.net/auction/60/

I do not think these feet belong so a Singer 201, but I am sure someone here could be of more help than me

Judy in Phx, AZ

The bobbin (on the right) looks like the ones for my White 77.

The griest attachments need a master foot that is side clamp, it allows you to remove and replace various attachments on the same master foot.

The other attachments looks like Kenmore attachments, that flatter wider bobbin is for a Kenmore as well.



the attachment that looks like it is glowing has a tiny dark button you can almost see, it's side clamp and allows those GRIEST attachments to snap in or off.

Nope, none of these are for the 201. Except for the bobbin, that's just a comparison.

This mabob? [ATTACH=CONFIG]525630[/ATTACH]

Thats it!

That'll make all of those snap ins work on a 201

Funny, there were no Kenmores or Whites in this auction, but yes. That matches.

Thank you!

Good to know. I have a 201 and some of those Geist feet will have to check if there is a mabob in that box :)

Judy in Phx, AZ

The only Kenmore those top clamp will fit is one made by White -

And that is assuming the top clamp go with the White Bobbin - there are many styles of top clamp feet that won't fit a White.

Is my Kenmore 117 actually a White? Because those look pretty darn similar to the attachments I have for an old Kenmore. What all is under the WHITE umbrella?

117- White Sewing Machines (most USA, some models made in W. Germany)
119- currently unknown
120-New Process Gear (USA, a div. of Chrysler)
516-Gritzner Kaiser (West Germany)
158-Jaguar/Maruzen (mostly Japan, some Taiwan)
148-Soryu (Japan)
340-Necchi (Italy)
385-Janome (Taiwan) (Currently)

These are Kenmore source codes including White made machines. I'm sure there are more White made machines than just these.

Cari

Oh heavens yes, just verifying the White/Kenmore link.

My knowledge of White is fairly minimal. Cleveland, made their own cabinets, my grandmother still sews on hers, lots of direct drive, singerco.com has the manuals. The only one I have owned was a later Japanese one. It was nice, cleaned it up and set it loose.

Not nearly as minimal as mine. I know what the bobbins look like, lol.

Cari

Machines sold by Sears get quite interesting LOL!!

Early on, Sears used the name Minnesota as the badge, and over time had several different Mfg make machines with that name on them.

As to top clamp attachments, they are not interchangeable, and the differences are often subtle, but you can use things like the shirr plate, or included bobbins to help guess what they fit.

White as the wider slot, center needle hole and a slightly longer (think it's 5/8") distance between gap and needle hole. So far, White is the only one I've encountered that has a centered needle with the longer distance.

And is your cabinet the Singer #42 Art Deco one? Does it have the glass ink well in the top left drawer? If so, could you tell me the number on the bottom of the glass? I have been trying to find a top for mine but don't know what the numbers mean. By the way, great deal on that machine and cabinet even if everything in the drawers don't fit it.

I just answered in the other thread. It's 14. I have no lid. The machine is a 201 from 1938.

The "camel toe", attachments look like the ones for my mother's White Rotary, 1921 treadle machine. One of the bobbins,, with the slightly rounded top, is a class 66 and will work on your 201, The other bobbin is for a White or Kenmore, as they can use the same bobbin. The other attachments look like the ones you see in the blue velvet boxes. Sorry they won't fit a 201. The 201 is an excellent machine. I have two and love them. They will last into the next millenium, with care.

I'm kind of surprised no one picked up on what I believe is the thread cutter/holder that is in the second picture below & to left of the quilting bar. I think it is Singer part number 161585 and according to ebay is for featherweight sewing machines, which means you should be able to use on the 201. I have a few parts lists and still haven't found part number 161585. I have a "modern day" one but how it attaches to presser bar over the presser foot is shaped differently. I am one that likes the thread cutter on my machines and miss it if it is not there.

I think there may be a couple of tips (in the second picture, underneath the quilting bar ) for the tools that would be used to make the old punched rugs or seat covers made with narrow wool strips.

Smithsonian has the pdf for the Greist attachments. I'm not real good with links but believe this might get you to the pdf -- http://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollect.../sil10-215.pdf

Have fun & enjoy the 201.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

"according to eBay" every Singer part is for a Featherweight! I've seen lots of non-singer parts listed as "may fit a FW" too. Sellers on ebay have the idea that if they mention "featherweight" in the listing, they can double the price.

Actually, very few parts were specifically for the FW - and there are very few side clamp Singer attachments that are machine specific -and most that are - is because of a feed dog plate or cover.

I once saw a basic Singer buttonholer that someone put in a black fabric case that the White units come in. Seller listed it as "Rare Featherweight Buttonholer" and wanted $100 for it. I guess since it came in a black case, it belonged to a machine that came in a black case. Much cheaper to buy a regular Singer unit and a regular White unit and swap cases.

Thanks for the pdf with all the Greist attachments information. I need to save that.

Interesting auction. They made a bid mistake in listing the Bernina 1530 as an embroidery machine. That is my baby that I piece and quilt on it. It was the top of the DSM line for a while but they came out with embroidery machines after that model starting with the new crummy numbering of their machines.

The feet on the bottom of the 1st picture are for a White Rotary as is the larger bobbin. I have no idea what machine the other feet fit. The smaller bobbin will work with your 201.
Sharon in Texas.

That's just par for the course for this group of auctioneers. There's several different ones that work through this website; there's one that lists every treadle as "pinterest ready!"
I rarely read the descriptions anymore, I usually just get annoyed.

Here's a good example: http://www.aoauctions.net/lot/8891/

http://www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/simanco/161585/

Sure is! Complete with some threads in it. :D

The 201 is a long way from anything. :( the electrical stuff is a mess. I was hoping for the best with a machine in a cabinet so nice. Nope.