Can someone tell me what this machine is?
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My husband is helping out with an estate sale that is coming up soon and he says this machine looks really good and thought it was a featherweight. He sent me pictures so I knew it wasn't a Featherweight but don't know what it is. Didn't think to ask him to find the numbers on the bottom of the machine. Here are the pictures he sent to me. I know you all will know what machine this is. Cabinet is in great condition too so what would a fair price range be for the machine and cabinet? Thanks for your help! Carol
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201 I think, but having never owned one I could be mistaken.
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Originally Posted by greywuuf
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201 I think, but having never owned one I could be mistaken.
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Oh, thanks so much for the info. Now I'll look it up and see what I can learn about it. Is it considered a good, collectible machine? I'm thinking of getting it for one of my daughters. Carol
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It is considered to be the "premeire" user of the older iron lady (black cast iron) machines. One of the more expensive to acquire originally, not as old or as rare (from a collection standpoint) but a very smooth well built straight stitch machine. If I could find one without the "potted" motor I will have one someday....but I will use mine in a treadle. The one in the picture I would consider "very desirable". I would personally think a complete machine/cabinet in that condition would command a premium price....but I am in Alaska so have little to choose from.
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201 and yes collectible. It's a strong straight stitcher. One of the good'ns. :)
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201! I've been keeping my eyes open for the "right" one for myself. That one looks to be in good shape - nice cabinet too. I'd totally be into that machine!
It has a reputation for having REALLY good stitches. |
They are great machines, but "collectable?" well, if you want a lot of Singers, then you should have this one. However they aren't what I would consider an investment like some collectables would be. If you really want "collectable" machines that have long term value as a collectable, you need to go after the early types - mostly pre-high arm machines.
About 95% of the value of a Singer 201-2 is in it's usability. Now, if you stumble upon a 201 Hand crank- that one does have more value as a collectable machine than as a user. |
Originally Posted by Macybaby
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About 95% of the value of a Singer 201-2 is in it's usability. Now, if you stumble upon a 201 Hand crank- that one does have more value as a collectable machine than as a user.
I didn't realize the 201HC was that collectible! Now I know why you were so interested when I found that one at Christmas. ;) I suppose I should get on the "project build a new bentwood" for it then. |
That is a very nice looking machine. The 201-2 was my first Singer, and still my favorite. You should absolutely get it, but if you sew with it you may not want to give it to your daughter.
Cari |
I was 5 when my grandmother bought her 201-3, which I still have 60+years later. Grand old machine and while I have had chances to sell it, I have hung on to it. Now I need room to set up my machines.
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Oh how I want a 201 . Gave up buying one from Steve in California because hubby thought the shipping would be too expensive. He knows I still want one but thought there must be one looking for me in central Ontario but I never find them in this area. May have to bring one back from Florida some winter. I keep saying it is the only one I want to complete my collection even though I never intended to be a collector. I am a user- of machines at least.
gotta go sew. |
201s seem to be relatively common here, usually in the belted motor variety. I personally have owned 5 of them, one potted, one HC and the rest belted. I'm down to the 2 I'm keeping. One belted and one HC.
We're not quite Ontario,... and we're definitely not California. ;) That said, it's possible that shipping from the US might be as cheap as coming from other areas of Canada if you can get someone to pack one right for you and you know Steve would. |
I agree. I would get it. Such a nice looking cabinet. They don't make those anymore.
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201's are available in Ontario. They show up every little while on Kijiji (Canadian version of Craig's List). I got mine free as the daughters were trying to clean out their mother's sewing room and my quilting buddy paid $50 for hers just lately (listed on Barrie). The Canadian version is usually the 201-3 which has the belted motor. A clue to identifying them quickly is the American version usually has a white light switch (not sure why they did this on a black machine). 201's are fast and powerful. I use mine to mend DH's heavy coveralls.
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Interesting, my grandmothers 201-3 (Helen) was bought in Sherbrooke, Que in 51. Didn't know the Canadian one was mostly the 3 and American the 2. Mine was used for years by Grandmother and then my mother, did a lot of sewing including professional quality lined pleated drapes. Upholstery etc. along with many clothes.
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Originally Posted by Carol34446
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Didn't know the Canadian one was mostly the 3 and American the 2.
I'd think that Canada mostly got Scottish machines, as we did. I believe 222Ks are also more common there. Someone in Canada: Are most of your pre-1960s machines from Scotland? EDIT: Just noticed ISMACS mentions a 201-3. Maybe they were made in the U.S. too, but I haven't heard of many. |
Originally Posted by carolsews2
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My husband is helping out with an estate sale that is coming up soon and he says this machine looks really good and thought it was a featherweight. He sent me pictures so I knew it wasn't a Featherweight but don't know what it is. Didn't think to ask him to find the numbers on the bottom of the machine. Here are the pictures he sent to me. I know you all will know what machine this is. Cabinet is in great condition too so what would a fair price range be for the machine and cabinet? Thanks for your help! Carol
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There is a WAY more obvious way to tell the difference between a 201 and a 15 than the light switch.
It's where the tension is. They are significantly different machines. |
Is the 201 a Ball Bearing machine ?
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Originally Posted by manicmike
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The 3s are 201K3 made in Scotland. It's probably because of the British connection to Canada and I imagine you find the later (much lighter) 201Ks in Canada too. The one I use the most has a converted (re-wound for 240V) Canadian motor and is a 201K23. I assumed someone brought it with them to Australia and had the motor re-wound (not knowing there are a million of them here!) but I've never even seen a 201-2 or a potted motor Singer 15.
I'd think that Canada mostly got Scottish machines, as we did. I believe 222Ks are also more common there. Someone in Canada: Are most of your pre-1960s machines from Scotland? EDIT: Just noticed ISMACS mentions a 201-3. Maybe they were made in the U.S. too, but I haven't heard of many. I've yet to see (or maybe recognise?) one of the Aluminum 201s here. I'd love to get my mitts on one. I find 222s relatively often but the prices on them are more all over the board than anything else I've seen. I recently missed a 222 for $50. Yes, five zero. That one still burns.
Originally Posted by Macybaby
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There is a WAY more obvious way to tell the difference between a 201 and a 15 than the light switch.
It's where the tension is. They are significantly different machines.
Originally Posted by greywuuf
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Is the 201 a Ball Bearing machine ?
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Originally Posted by ArchaicArcane
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The 201 uses 2 sets of helical gears, the 15 uses rocker shafts for its oscillating motion.
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You're welcome! Back in the day, these were the "cadillac" of the Singer line up. They were the top of the line and showed it. They're possibly as close as you can get to silent, very strong and then add that perfect straight stitch you get from a "fixed" needlebar that straight stitches only. They were also the most expensive machine by a lot. ;)
This is a good reference site. There are some notable errors and some really noticeable grammar problems but the history is good: http://www.sewalot.com/singer_201k_sewalot.htm |
The 201k-4(original hand crank), was my first people powered machine. Yours a 201-2.
Sharon in Texas |
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