Cleaning cast iron patch on vintage Singer
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Serial Number F8045010, can't determine if USA or UK made. I have cleaned the gunk out of interior and bottom, but now ready for topside of machine cleaning. Large patches of flaked off japanning black finish. If I clean the topside now, I understand I need to clean with sewing machine oil all over, especially the decal areas, but - is it OK to go over balded cast iron patches with sew machine oil also? Would that make the cast iron patches too oily and resistant to the black shellacking which I believe would be the next step? Am new to forum, will try to load photos. Also on the bobbin winder photo is something missing on the right hand side where the bobbin fits in? Looks like those threads are wanting something on them there. I hope the photos load.
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Glenn had a neat tutorial on fixing the finish and it won’t exactly work in your case. The oil won’t help your cause at all. https://www.quiltingboard.com/vintag...s-t193635.html You will have to real add of this to find where he talks about machine with flaked off japanning. I don’t think Glen supports the tutorial these days. I believe he uses something to cover the bare spots. That machine will never be restored enough to be in original condition. You might consider painting. I had one that was so bad I just scraped most of it off. It looked kind of cool that way so I shellacked right over it. It made a smooth surface and was a functional machine once everything was cleaned up.
https://www.quiltingboard.com/vintag...r-t256543.html Here is the crusty old think I just shellacked. And you can’t tell much. It’s the first pic. |
What a shame that they didn't store the machine properly. Miriam gave some good advice. The machine will not look original but it will be functional.
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Cleaning cast iron patch on vintage Singer
Originally Posted by miriam
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Glenn had a neat tutorial on fixing the finish and it won’t exactly work in your case. The oil won’t help your cause at all. https://www.quiltingboard.com/vintag...s-t193635.html You will have to real add of this to find where he talks about machine with flaked off japanning. I don’t think Glen supports the tutorial these days. I believe he uses something to cover the bare spots. That machine will never be restored enough to be in original condition. You might consider painting. I had one that was so bad I just scraped most of it off. It looked kind of cool that way so I shellacked right over it. It made a smooth surface and was a functional machine once everything was cleaned up.
https://www.quiltingboard.com/vintag...r-t256543.html Here is the crusty old think I just shellacked. And you can’t tell much. It’s the first pic. |
Thank you for your comments. Yes, if I can't restore, then I'll settle for preserving. Will appreciate all advice on that course of action.
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Random thoughts: My machine was all there, just in rough shape. Yes I scraped off all loose pieces of paint and rust. There are lots of ways to clean off rust. Maybe I used a wire brush. Maybe some evap-o-rust. Cleaned it with naphtha... I can’t remember what all I did, but no oil. I think I just applied thinned shellac with a rag on my finger. It stuck. The metal was pitted and rough but the shellac filled it in. Shellac is easy to remove if you don’t like the look. Do not use shellac on areas that are moving or will have friction. Some times the worst beat up machines sew the best. Yes look for burrs and bits of rust anywhere along the thread path. If it is shiny metal gone rusty some times I use bike chain oil to remove the rust and then I clean that off. When a machine I have around is so bad it can’t sew some times there are still good parts. Some times I get a machine with too many parts missing. I have combined parts off one on to another to make the better machine run. Some people think you should restore all old machines. It is sure fun to try. If it has too many pieces missing where do those parts you need come from? I do have lots of parts and lots of junk machines.
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Looking at your machine, it can be hard to tell the difference between rust and dried up old oil from here. The rust will be gritty and the dried oil will have some gum feel to it. I would try to clean off oil on that machine with naphtha or denatured alcohol. If it is rust, get some evap-o-rust or vinegar and remove what bits you can and soak in that. Either one is good to have on hand. You do not want to put evap-o-rust on the whole machine. You can never get it all out of the cracks and corners. Bike chain oil can be used but you will want to get it off with the alcohol. Then you will need a thin oil.
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This was my Mum's old machine. I followed Glenn's guidance on here, mentioned by Miriam and I was very pleased with the outcome. I scraped all flaking paint off, shellac and an aniline dye to colour for the base, and car polish to protect it.
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Wow!!! Again wow!
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Originally Posted by miriam
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Wow!!! Again wow!
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https://www.quiltingboard.com/vintag...e-t261967.html
This one was kind of epic. It still is around but not painted. I saw it the other day but forgot what all I went through to make it work. I’m thinking that one is going to be part of 4-H this year. |
Yes, I remember reading that; definitely epic.
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Cleaning cast iron patch on vintage Singer
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Originally Posted by Cedarberry
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Serial Number F8045010, can't determine if USA or UK made. I have cleaned the gunk out of interior and bottom, but now ready for topside of machine cleaning. Large patches of flaked off japanning black finish. If I clean the topside now, I understand I need to clean with sewing machine oil all over, especially the decal areas, but - is it OK to go over balded cast iron patches with sew machine oil also? Would that make the cast iron patches too oily and resistant to the black shellacking which I believe would be the next step? Am new to forum, will try to load photos. Also on the bobbin winder photo is something missing on the right hand side where the bobbin fits in? Looks like those threads are wanting something on them there. I hope the photos load.
Thankful for help and advice. |
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I managed to get the bobbin winder of my machine but I did not take it apart. Just hours of cleaning, very fine steel wool, oil, toothpick, old tooth brush, metal polish, and elbow grease. It also worked at the end of all that, by was not shiny - I did not worry about it. The tension unit is a much easier animal to take apart, but I would suggest that you photograph each stage, and place each item safely somewhere as you remove it - so you can put it back together. Much easier to clean though. I did not remove the central pin, just all the pieces you can see. When you remove the face plate you can see the insides, again I used old tooth brush, dental floss, dental sticks, metal polish, steel wool, oil, many hours spent on it, but the sense of achievement was wonderful. My kitchen looked like a workshop for several days!
Some photos of the tension unit; after the face plate removal, the working bobbin winder. I think yours may come up better than mine. [ATTACH=CONFIG]611469[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]611470[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]611471[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]611472[/ATTACH] |
Originally Posted by Cedarberry
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. Three further questions: 1. I am wanting to take apart and clean the tension assembly. Is that too terribly difficult to get the parts back on in order? See photo of tension assembly condition.,,,,
When I cleaned my tension assemblies on my 27s, which are an earlier version on your 127k, I used http://mysewingmachineobsession.blog...-assembly.html (Not affiliated with link) to get it back together.
Originally Posted by Cedarberry
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. . 2. I am also wanting to take off and clean thoroughly the parts of the bobbin winder. Is that possible for a newbie without having to call 911? I'm committed to doing the work, just don't want to get in over my head, worried about putting all parts back together in proper order.
Originally Posted by Cedarberry
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. 3. I want to take off balance wheel to clean thoroughly around where it attaches. Any pitfalls to be aware of? Advice super welcome!!
Lizzie Lenard has some good youtube videos about cleaning these old sewing machines. Good Luck. Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do. |
Originally Posted by charley26
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This was my Mum's old machine. I followed Glenn's guidance on here, mentioned by Miriam and I was very pleased with the outcome. I scraped all flaking paint off, shellac and an aniline dye to colour for the base, and car polish to protect it.
Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do. |
Originally Posted by OurWorkbench
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Fantastic :thumbup: Glad you could get your Mum's machine back to original purpose.
Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do. |
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