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leonf 10-15-2017 07:41 AM

dragged home the husky 27-20
 
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[ATTACH=CONFIG]582278[/ATTACH]Ok you knew I couldn't resist. I snagged the Husqvarna Industrial.

minus a bobbin. It's dirty and still in the car, so no good shots of it yet. Their is a huge lack of info on this machine. I posted to H/V facebook page last night, but though maybe someone here may know what bobbin it takes. I hope it will run again.

J3General 10-15-2017 04:38 PM

Now, I don't own an industrial anything; but a friend of mine has a contract sewing company. He owns over 400 industrial machines, many are older vintage machines; and he has some older Huskvarnas. I wonder if there is a proprietary Huskvarna bobbin for your 27-20 or a more generic type such as an 'L' or an 'N' bobbin I have seen a number of times in his work area. He uses a lot of purchased, pre-wound generic bobbins for his work. I will ask him about your model to see if he has information.

John Thomas in NC

bkay 10-15-2017 05:44 PM

I knew you couldn't resist. :)

bksy

Mickey2 10-16-2017 02:26 AM

I think the bobbins are the same as for a Singer 96. Is hook and race rotary? It's worth trying of you can't find any more detailed info on it.

Mickey2 10-16-2017 03:51 AM

Husqvarna made a few models under license from Singer along side their own designs, and yours might be a particular subversion of a Singer 96. Does yours have rotary race and hook, revers stitching and a round chromed stitch length knob? It needs further investigation ;- )

leonf 10-16-2017 06:08 AM

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Ok more pics. Missing the bobbin race also. and I pulled out a neglected 27 as size example. Thanks all and especially John Thomas and Mickey 2.

Janey if you are here you can tell your John that his bracket won't fit this monster.

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leonf 10-16-2017 06:16 AM

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The added arm on the back side of the Husky is to raise the presserfoot with a knee.

I don't know if it will do reverse. Now I have to look up 96s. [ATTACH=CONFIG]582323[/ATTACH]

And yea it has a bit or rust, but not many dustbunnies. Stand is still at the store. I couldn't carry it the other day.

Mickey2 10-16-2017 06:37 AM

It looks very promising. I can't make sense of the bobbin case assembly, except for the missing bobbin case. It's large! I consider my 201 on the heavy side.

My internet is acting up today, preventing me from accessing sites on the web, but it looks like there's a similar machine to yours on ebay. Maybe you could contact the seller for info and comparsion of the hook and race assebly, as well as bobbins? I'm just thinking out loud really, but it crossed my mind when I found the pictures.

You have probably seen it, and this is a rather random attempt at a link, since it's not working properly at the moment.

Mickey2 10-16-2017 07:13 AM

I found this thread on the Quilting board (six posts down on the page). Manicmike hasn't posted the last two years, but he might reply to a pm and notice your current thread.

leonf 10-16-2017 07:38 AM

pm ed him. We'll see. Thanks for the hints.

Mickey2 10-16-2017 07:38 AM

Huskies aren't very large dogs, but very enduring. If your 27-20 has a size comparison in the world of horses it would be like this Belgian work horse ;- )

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...dennaise_1.jpg

leonf 10-16-2017 07:44 AM

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[ATTACH=CONFIG]582325[/ATTACH] One aggressive set of feed dogs. Hmm wonder where the presser foot spring is? Part of the challenge.

leonf 10-16-2017 07:48 AM

The seller didn't offer to carry it out to my car. I planned my route through my house and made sure the area was ready for it before I borught it in the house. I need to weigh it and take a picture with it beside a featherweight or a toy 20. Bkay was right, I have no need, but I couldn't resist the urge.

leonf 10-16-2017 07:51 AM

I love the 5 oil holes above the front plate. I waited to oil it until I got it placed. Didn't want to try to carry it and have my fingers slip in a drop of oil.

Bluelady 10-16-2017 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by Mickey2 (Post 7925845)
Huskies aren't very large dogs, but very enduring. If your 27-20 has a size comparison in the world of horses it would be like this Belgian work horse ;- )

LOL LOVE this comparison!

Cari-in-Oly 10-16-2017 09:10 AM

Leon contact http://www.tolindsewmach.com/ There's a guy there (Bob Kovar? I think) who's an industrial guru. If he can't help you no one can.

Cari

Cari-in-Oly 10-16-2017 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by Mickey2 (Post 7925837)
I found this thread on the Quilting board (six posts down on the page). Manicmike hasn't posted the last two years, but he might reply to a pm and notice your current thread.

You'll most likely find Mike easier on the VSS forum.

Cari

Mickey2 10-16-2017 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by leonf (Post 7925851)
...One aggressive set of feed dogs. Hmm wonder where the presser foot spring is? Part of the challenge.

The slighly longer feed dogs and presser foot are fantastic for flat felled seams on duck and denim. I don't think they are too agressive in real life, just a bit more stable handling of heavier fabrics and over bumps. I guess you have to unscrew the presser adjustment screw to get to the spring parts.

Mickey2 10-16-2017 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Bluelady (Post 7925896)
LOL LOVE this comparison!

The first time as saw the large horse breeds in real life it made an impression, what a suprise, I think it startled me a bit lol

OurWorkbench 10-16-2017 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by leonf (Post 7925795)
....
Janey if you are here you can tell your John that his bracket won't fit this monster.
...

That was my first thought when I saw that you picked this up. I've had no desire for an industrial machine, so John just worked with the machines I had.

It almost looks like it might fit with the right base board, but very tight quarters for the nose and hand wheel. What is the size of the bed on it? John will probably look at your post later today.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

OurWorkbench 10-17-2017 05:02 AM

Leon, Although I haven't posted much, I am following your travels and enjoy seeing your new acquisitions. The industrial does look like a workhorse. I liked the analogy. As Janey said, you may need a "whopper" frame for it and other industrial machines. I'm envious of your ability to compare it to smaller domestic machines. I noticed the extra substantial guides for the needle and presser bars. I'll read any comments you have with great interest. I'm particularly interested in the bed width and length. Also its weight. Thanks for sharing the pictures with all of us. John

leonf 10-17-2017 06:06 AM

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Manicmike suggested a 319 or 306 bobbin assembly might fit.. and lucky me, I had one four feet from the Husky. Couldn't wait to get home and try it. I knew I didn't have a bobbin though, when bkay sent it my way it was missing. I'd been waiting for one to appear. I turned the 319 over and this is what I saw[ATTACH=CONFIG]582360[/ATTACH]


Ooops missing more than the bobbin. The hunt continues. I did start oiling it down and cleaning a bit. I have more folks to contact.

7w x 19L x 2 1/2H base. 13 1/2 to the top of the spool pin.

If I were into naming machines I'd have to name this after a huge horse or maybe Yeti because there have been no other sighting.


It does look an awful lot like a 96 Singer and there is one only 100 miles away... NO NO Leon, That is not the answer.

leonf 10-17-2017 06:35 AM

Sorry it is fuzzy. I was balancing the 319 with one hand and shooting with the other.

Ordered Singer 96 bits for it. We'll see. And if they don't work for the Husky the might revive the 319.

Hard to type with crossed fingers.

Danny123 10-17-2017 08:03 AM

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Hello to all,new to forum and sorry, not much of a quilter, but I have a question that you friendly folks might be able to help me with. The other day, I bought a 1957 Singer 401A machine from goodwill for $20.00. It is in immaculate shape (see pictures) I would like to resell it.. but in my research, the prices are all over the board. My questions are,
1. It didn't have a power cord or foot controller, so I ordered and receive one. Have not ordered foot controller yet.
I'm not sure if the machine actually works, but I'm confident that it will. If I plug in the power cord, will I be able to tell if it works without having the foot controller?

2. Does selling it without the foot controller hurt my chances of selling?[ATTACH=CONFIG]582367[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]582368[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]582369[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]582370[/ATTACH]

3. What would be a fair asking price for this machine? (assuming that it works?)

Danny123 10-17-2017 08:05 AM

Did I send the above post to the right section?

leonf 10-17-2017 08:31 AM

Hi Danny 123, Welcome to the board. Nice machine. Great price.

I'll answer your questions as best I can. First of all. you are half right in your posting. OK more than half , many folks have a terrible time downsizing pics. You got the right forum, but posting it under the Husqvarna post only gets those interested in one obscure magazine. The blue oval called "start new Thread" is the one you wanted.
You could name it "401a Singer questions"

Prices do run all over, but they are determined by condition, location, accessories, phase of the moon , etc.

Your 401a will not run without a controller and as such buyers will buy as a "could easily be broken" machine with smaller offers.

Hand turning the thing will tell you some things, but not all.

putting your (aprox) location may help. Someone here may live around the corner and be looking for one. They can PM you if interested.

bkay 10-17-2017 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by Danny123 (Post 7926381)
Did I send the above post to the right section?

You'd probably get more responses if you started a new thread. Not everyone reads every thread. They usually read one to see what it's about, and then follow it if they are interested. So, it's possible by not starting a new thread about a 401, few people will see it. Post it in Vintage and Antique Machine Enthusiasts and title it "401 yada, yada" (you get the idea).

I would not pay much more than you did if I didn't see the machine work and it will require a foot pedal. It appears to be in good condition and has a nice case, so that's a plus. It's a great machine, but the 401 is notorious for freezing up. It's a laborious chore to un-freeze it. It's not hard to do, but does take a lot of cleaning with hairdryers, PB blaster, alcohol or kerosene and re-oiling and re-greasing. There are several threads about the process, which helped me get mine done.

If it's working and you are willing to wait, and keep posting it on craigslist or Offerup or something like that, you will probably get somewhere between $100 and $200 in Dallas. Having a case adds value here. However, going prices vary by region.

bkay

miriam 10-17-2017 12:05 PM

You should be able to find the bobbin case and bobbin as well as the spring from an old industrial sewing machine repair shop. It should not be hard to locate your parts.

miriam 10-17-2017 12:08 PM

Is the foot controller for the 401 and it’s attachments inside the case? If not they are easy to obtain on line.

leonf 10-19-2017 01:50 PM

woooo hooo. I picked up the Husqvarna table today. If you remember, it was in a very cluttered shop. As we got the table outside, I discovered a drawer. Something rattled inside. OH???? 10 bobbins, a bobbin case, washers, screws bolts, tension bits and a few mystery bits. Now If I track down a 16x231 needle, it may even sew. Happy Dance. I hadn't started the needle search since I was stopped by the bobbin. Sorry, pics will have to wait a bit... life, ya know.

Cari-in-Oly 10-19-2017 05:04 PM

That is a Woo-Hoo! Leon, awesome that the parts were there. We know that all too often they aren't so you lucked out.

Cari

Rocsew 10-19-2017 06:59 PM

leonf, I'm pretty sure you can substitute 16x257 for 16x231. It's also known as DBx1, a very common industrial size. You can get them cheap at Wawak.com.

J3General 10-22-2017 04:51 AM

Leon, do you have any idea what bobbin size you have there?

leonf 10-22-2017 07:16 AM

The bobbin case I thought would work isn't happy. Could be just me. I'll post when I have a better answer.

leonf 10-23-2017 08:32 AM

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more Husqvarna bits.

leonf 10-23-2017 08:36 AM

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[ATTACH=CONFIG]582799[/ATTACH]you can see where the winder sat.

OurWorkbench 03-08-2018 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by leonf (Post 7929408)
The bobbin case I thought would work isn't happy. Could be just me. I'll post when I have a better answer.

What is the status of bobbins & bobbin case for this machine? It is hard to decipher, but it looks like it lists five bobbin cases for Husqvarna 27 on page 15 of http://www.towa-mfg.co.jp/seihin/bob..._catalogue.pdf

I also found https://www.etsy.com/listing/5688556...listing_bot-13 and https://www.etsy.com/listing/5700626..._listing_bot-1
It looks like that it is same number as bobbin case and bobbin for the Singer's 20U and 96.

Do you think you would use size 22 needles in this machine?

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.


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