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Caroline S 03-30-2012 03:34 PM

Found a Singer 201
 
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A Singer 201 was one of the last vintage sewing machines on my want list. Take a look at Ophelia. Ophelia is a very common name in my maternal ancestry.

I saw her on Craigslist and she was a good price, $80 and in a cabinet. Met up with the seller this morning in a vacant store parking lot. Of course I had DD, AKA chief enabler with me. I did not think twice about the 80 bucks after taking a good look at her. She is so clean top and bottom and came with a Singer button holer.

My recent sewing machine purchases seem to have a good story. The seller is an OJCSG. What is an OJCSG? Well that is an Old Junk Collector Seller Guy. He arrived in a vintage chevy van that was stuffed to the gills with junk treasures, tools and reeked of cigar smoke. He opened the back of the van and there was Ophelia. He had told me that the top of the cabinet has some veneer damage so I had a mental image of peeling and lifting veneer. Nope, actually all there is just some surface damage the finish that is easily fixed. I turned the hand wheel and everything worked smoothly. He then said "do you want to hear it run." I said "How?" and he said he had a generator in the van and he would start it up and plug the sewing machine in so I could test it. Incredible. Never in a thousand years would I have thought that the OJCSG would have a working generator in his van. I was willing to buy the machine without even testing the electrical function.

Serial number AL341041, allotment date 11 August 1952

Oh, I bought another sewing machine today also, A Morse that I will be posting on another new thread. JOE, you are going to drool over the Morse.:p


Charlee 03-30-2012 03:40 PM

NICE!!! :) Love the story!

I found a cabinet and stool for my 201 today! $20 on my local Craig's list... have been watching for a cabinet for her, as I hated the one I painted....get to go pick it up tonight! :)

Caroline S 03-30-2012 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by Charlee (Post 5103345)
NICE!!! :) Love the story!

I found a cabinet and stool for my 201 today! $20 on my local Craig's list... have been watching for a cabinet for her, as I hated the one I painted....get to go pick it up tonight! :)

Awesome Charlee. Don't you just those good deals when you find what you want at a good price? Guess what? OJCSG just called DD and say he just found another 201. Might be a 201 for DD. Now this is really bad (GOOD?) :eek:

Charlee 03-30-2012 03:59 PM

These 201s just totally rock! I love mine...so yep! I think EVERYONE should have one!! :D :D :D

J Miller 03-30-2012 04:18 PM

Caroline,

That's a nice machine, though not a 201. More like a 15-91. 201's have the tensioner in the front like a 66 and the round disk around the stitch length lever.
Just checked my chart and sure enough it says Mdl 15, Allotted No. 50,000, Allotted date April-8-53.

Nice machine though.

Joe

Caroline S 03-30-2012 05:13 PM

Yes, Joe. You are correct. I just rechecked the serial number on ISMACS. Darn. I must have read the serial number incorrectly. Darn. Ophelia is a keeper anyway. The Singer sewing machine I will be looking at tomorrow has a serial number of AL341041. Double check for me to make sure that one is a 201. She is according to ISMACS. Gotta get some new glasses and take a picture of 201 with me when I do the inspection.

Wait till you see the Morse.

Nanamoms 03-30-2012 05:35 PM

Caroline, you will LOVE that 15-91! I was given one for FREE (no cabinet though) and she sews wonderfully!!

Caroline S 03-30-2012 05:39 PM

Thanks Nanamoms. Joe burst my bubble a little bit, just a little though. Part of the learning process. LOL

J Miller 03-30-2012 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by Caroline S (Post 5103594)
Yes, Joe. You are correct. I just rechecked the serial number on ISMACS. Darn. I must have read the serial number incorrectly. Darn. Ophelia is a keeper anyway. The Singer sewing machine I will be looking at tomorrow has a serial number of AL341041. Double check for me to make sure that one is a 201. She is according to ISMACS. Gotta get some new glasses and take a picture of 201 with me when I do the inspection.

Wait till you see the Morse.

Carloine,

The number you gave me above is the same number for the 15 in the pic above.

Sorry about bursting your bubble, I was really hoping to get a look see at another 201. I'm getting kind of fond of mine. But ...... I don't have a 15 and you do.

Joe

Charlee 03-30-2012 08:16 PM

:D :D :D I didn't even notice the tension!! Nor did I notice that it was missing the white switch... That's what I get for logging on and trying to post from work when we have customers!

15-91..also a VERY good machine!

Caroline S 03-30-2012 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by J Miller (Post 5103805)
Carloine,

The number you gave me above is the same number for the 15 in the pic above.

Sorry about bursting your bubble, I was really hoping to get a look see at another 201. I'm getting kind of fond of mine. But ...... I don't have a 15 and you do.

Joe

I told you I needed new glasses.:eek: The serial number is AH491196.

Christine- 03-30-2012 09:05 PM

I have the same machine! It is indeed a 15-91. I used it to stitch very thick leather pieces together to reupholster a table for my chiropractor last week. 2 pieces of leather together was 1/4" thick!!! I just love this machine. I call it the "tank". And now it's back to sewing quilt fabric. What a versatile machine! I got mine Free on craigslist. It has a beautiful table.

Caroline S 03-30-2012 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by Christine- (Post 5104013)
I have the same machine! It is indeed a 15-91. I used it to stitch very thick leather pieces together to reupholster a table for my chiropractor last week. 2 pieces of leather together was 1/4" thick!!! I just love this machine. I call it the "tank". And now it's back to sewing quilt fabric. What a versatile machine! I got mine Free on craigslist. It has a beautiful table.

Thanks Christine. I now feel much better now. I think I will finish the cushion reupholstery project that for DH's boat and I will use the 15-91.

Blackberry 03-31-2012 03:28 AM


Originally Posted by Nanamoms (Post 5103645)
Caroline, you will LOVE that 15-91! I was given one for FREE (no cabinet though) and she sews wonderfully!!


I have both a 201 and a 15-91. in fact I have 2 of the 201's and 3 of th 15-91's and I love these machines. The 15-91 is extremely great for FMQ. Keep searching for the 201. You won't be disappointed.

mighty 03-31-2012 05:53 AM

Beautiful machine!

J Miller 03-31-2012 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by Caroline S (Post 5104003)
I told you I needed new glasses.:eek: The serial number is AH491196.

My chart says:
Class: 201, Quantity Allotted: 15,000, Date Allotted: Feb 27-1948

That aughta do it for your 201 desires.

Joe

Caroline S 03-31-2012 06:43 AM

Thanks Joe. I go look Monday, OJCSG says the 201 is nicer than the 15-91. The best part (worst???) is that I opened my mouth when I was buying the 15-91 and mentioned to the OJCSG that I collected old sewing machines. Now he birddogging for me. He is the one who found the 201. That is all I need another enabler besides DD!!

Caroline S 03-31-2012 07:45 AM

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Joe asked me about the "indian blanket" behind the pics of my sewing machine. It is not an indian blanket but a Seminole Pieced lap quilt I made for my granddaughter some 20 years ago. I need to make another one as this quilt is my favorite quilt. Machined pieced of course but hand quilted. Just for Joe. :)

Oops looks as if I have not resized the pics but you get the idea. I still have some of the fabrics in my stash. LOL

kydeb 03-31-2012 08:15 AM

Congratulations to Charlee and Caroline S!!

J Miller 03-31-2012 08:23 AM

That's a beautiful quilt.

Joe

J Miller 03-31-2012 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by Caroline S (Post 5104688)
Thanks Joe. I go look Monday, OJCSG says the 201 is nicer than the 15-91. The best part (worst???) is that I opened my mouth when I was buying the 15-91 and mentioned to the OJCSG that I collected old sewing machines. Now he birddogging for me. He is the one who found the 201. That is all I need another enabler besides DD!!

I've never used a real Mdl 15 let alone a 15-91. I do have several machines that are similar and are wonderful machines. But what impressed me the most about the 201-2 is it's so quiet.
I have other quiet machines, but not like this. I'm at a loss for words to describe it.

Joe

Christine- 03-31-2012 11:14 AM

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Caroline, you found a true treasure! I restored the top of my table. If you want to clean it up, here's what you do... This is only a 2 day process. Clean the wood top with murphy's oil soap. From your picture, it looks pretty grimy on the table in front of the machine.

After the grime is cleaned off, take the top off the table, remove all the hardware. Place the wood pieces on layers of newspaper. This next step is to restore your table, this will not refinish your table.(Restoring keeps the value, refinishing ruins the value) If you have any dark rings (from glasses, etc) use 00 or 000 or 0000 steel wool to buff the dark spots away. Don't use sand paper!

You'll need denatured alcohol and rags. The finish on your table is made from shellac, which is made with denatured alcohol. Pour the denatured alcohol on the rag and wipe with the grain, quickly from edge to edge. What you're doing is dissolving the shellac. As you spread it from side to side you're filling the scratches with the same shellac. Your goal is not to remove all the shellac, just move it around and let it dry again. After you see the scratches are gone, take a rag soaked with alcohol once again and go over the entire top to smooth it all out.

Once it's dry, use a paste wax for furniture. I used Briwax in the antique mahogany color. It's a fine furniture grade wax.
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I didn't do the sides, only the top and it looks identical in color to the rest of the table. The wax gives it a matte finish that won't scratch when my quilt pins slide across it. I wish I had taken 'before' photos! I'm kicking myself for not doing this. It was in pretty bad shape. The shellac was flaking off on nearly half the top, and there were rings from water glasses. It was filthy with thick black gunk in front of the machine, just like yours shows. (What's the matter with these people??? Don't they know how to clean? Yuck! LOL)

J Miller 03-31-2012 11:57 AM

Christine,

Thanks for the instructions to restore the cabinet. I printed it for reference as I have several that need attention.

Joe

BarbaraSue 03-31-2012 02:53 PM

shie is a very pretty 15-91. And you will love her for FMQ, her harp space is nice, and her feed dogs go down!

Caroline S 03-31-2012 03:43 PM

Just like Joe, I printed your instructions for future reference. Unfortunately a lot of these machines have no value to some people. I think most have been shoved into a garage or storage area and for the most part forgotten unless they need a flat surface to pile something on.

mvjess 04-01-2012 05:30 PM

I believe you will also find the light on the 201 is in the front of the machine, instead of in the rear.
Enjoy your new acquisitions! cathy vj in MA

callen 04-02-2012 05:13 AM

I have a Singer Serial # JB291470 - I have checked ISMACS & can't seem to find any info. Can someone help me here - maybe Charlee or Joe? Could it be a 201 or 15-91??? Looks very similar to the one in Caroline's pictures but I know many models look similar. Would appreciate any help here.

Caroline S 04-02-2012 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by callen (Post 5109901)
I have a Singer Serial # JB291470 - I have checked ISMACS & can't seem to find any info. Can someone help me here - maybe Charlee or Joe? Could it be a 201 or 15-91??? Looks very similar to the one in Caroline's pictures but I know many models look similar. Would appreciate any help here.

Can you post a pic of your sewing machine and a pic of the serial number? Someone will tell you what you have. The JB prefix is a puzzler.

J Miller 04-02-2012 05:31 AM

Callen,

The charts that tell me the model number by serial number do not go to the dual letter numbers.
All I can find out from the charts I have is that JB is 1936 and made in Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, Québec, Canada.

If the machine has a potted motor like Carolines but has a tensioner on the front it's most likely a 201-2.

If you post a pic we can ID it.

Joe

callen 04-02-2012 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by callen (Post 5109901)
I have a Singer Serial # JB291470 - I have checked ISMACS & can't seem to find any info. Can someone help me here - maybe Charlee or Joe? Could it be a 201 or 15-91??? Looks very similar to the one in Caroline's pictures but I know many models look similar. Would appreciate any help here.

I found another site & according to them it was made between 1936 - 1948. Checking another site where they identify machines by their decals I think I may have an "Eye & Trefoils" & in another column it has the number 15 which means nothing to me. Does that mean anything to you guys? When my DH gets home I will have him download the pics I took & hopefully post them. I thought I originally had the design "celtic swirl" but I pretty sure I was wrong. I am almost certain the design is the "Eye & Trefoils" design. Maybe this 15 # denotes what you people have been talking about 15-91. Can you tell that I am new to this vintage thing?????

callen 04-02-2012 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by J Miller (Post 5109953)
Callen,

The charts that tell me the model number by serial number do not go to the dual letter numbers.
All I can find out from the charts I have is that JB is 1936 and made in Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, Québec, Canada.

If the machine has a potted motor like Carolines but has a tensioner on the front it's most likely a 201-2.

If you post a pic we can ID it.

Joe

The Canadian mfg. site makes sense to me as I live in Canada. The machine was given to me & the last owner knew nothing about it. Will try & post pics later. Tks again.

callen 04-03-2012 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by Caroline S (Post 5109947)
Can you post a pic of your sewing machine and a pic of the serial number? Someone will tell you what you have. The JB prefix is a puzzler.

I found out that my machine is a 15-91 & also found out from Joe & another blog that the "J" in front of the serial number designates that the machine was mfg. in the Quebec, Canada plant.


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