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Here is the Singer 101-4 Folks
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Serial number AD 353606, mfg 15 Apr 1931. I picked her up today along with one box of Singer attachments, another box of what I think is Singer slant attachments and a Singer buttonholer in a green plastic box. The damaged case that my Old Junk Collector Guy described was actually a cabinet, #40 I believe. And, of course, the top has peeling veneer. By summer's end I may be an expert at doing veneer work as almost every cabinet I have needs some work.
Somewhere the OJCG lost the manual, AAARRRG, but I will find one online. The major problem is that the wiring from the motor was cut but likely should be replaced anyway. Another problem is that the spool pin is sheered off level with the arm. I may have to add tapping dies to my tool collection as that may be the only way to remove the spool pin. I was reading one page of the manual online and it stated that that spool pin is to be removed to lube the gears in the head. Interesting. The ISMACS site says that the decal design is called Knots and Rectangles and they are really in good shape. And, what about the underneath??? That is truly remarkable. Does any other Singer machine have that configuration? I have a feeling I've got a lot to learn when I start cleaning and fixing this one. |
Nice machine. Please keep us udated. Thanks.
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Wow. The bottom of that sure is different! I've never seen one like it before. Hopefully your OJCG will find the manual for you. That's a cool machine!
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Kool machine---I will be eager to see how it progresses!
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Caroline,
Nice project you've got. I like it. Never seen one in person, would love to though. From your pic it looks as if there's a wee bit of a stump left of the spool pin, if it unscrews you might use a chisel to make a notch in it and turn it out. If there is enough of a stump you might cut a slot into it with a Dremel tool. If it truely is flush and and you can't turn it out with out risking damage to the top of the machine you'll need a tiny drill bit and an E-Z Out to remove it. Those spool pins are not hardened steel, but they aren't soft either. Another thing, if you have to drill it, I'd pull the motor and put something in there to catch the metal bits. I'd be positively paranoid about getting them in the gears. Joe |
I tried grabbing the what is left of the spool pin with small pair of needle nose pliers, didn't work. I've got the drill and tiny bits so it is off to the hardware store for an E-Z out. Whoo Hoo something new for the tool box. And I might look at a Dremel tool also. Yep, Mother's Day and Birthday in the same month so I will make sure I remember me.:D
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I guess I was lucky, my spool pin was sheared off below the top of the machine, but the impact that broke it also "broke it loose" and the tip of a pencil was all it took to thread it out. if you are going to dril it, be sure to file it flat first, and use a center punch to get a mark. more damage is done with easy outs and drill bits than you can imagine. IF you have a good tool store, buy a left handed drill bit, one that cuts spinning in reverse, sometimes that is enough to back the "stub" out. WHATEVER you do, to not apply much force to an easy out.... if you snap that off in there your life will get very ugly. They ARE hardened and undrillable.
good luck, I too am very interested in the model 101. |
Originally Posted by greywuuf
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I guess I was lucky, my spool pin was sheared off below the top of the machine, but the impact that broke it also "broke it loose" and the tip of a pencil was all it took to thread it out. if you are going to dril it, be sure to file it flat first, and use a center punch to get a mark. more damage is done with easy outs and drill bits than you can imagine. IF you have a good tool store, buy a left handed drill bit, one that cuts spinning in reverse, sometimes that is enough to back the "stub" out. WHATEVER you do, to not apply much force to an easy out.... if you snap that off in there your life will get very ugly. They ARE hardened and undrillable.
good luck, I too am very interested in the model 101. |
I've had several machines that were missing the pins, and one with a bent one. Looked like they dropped the machine on it's side and the spool pin got bent too. I was able to straighten that one. Never had a broken one. I can't imagine what they did to break it off.
And what Dan said about being very careful with the E-Z Out is absolutely true. They are very hard. And the small ones like you'll need are very easy to break. It probably won't take much effort to back the stump out but be careful. Joe |
Got the broken spool pin stub out
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I took a real good look that broken off spool pin today. I noticed that it had an itty bitty edge sticking up. So I got my smallest pair of needle nose pliers out and was able to grab that nub and turn the spool pin and remove it. It is/was a threaded spool pin. Of course, I don't have any of those so will have to order one. Posting a pic for you all to look at.
Thought you would like to see the potted motor with the cover off. |
Caroline,
I'm pleased as punch that broken piece came out without any trouble. The inside of that motor looks weird. Like maybe there's something missing. There's usually a second bearing on the shaft and that one doesn't seem to have one. Never seen the inside of one before so I'm just thinking out loud. My wife tells me I shouldn't do that. I get headaches when I do. Joe |
Nice, glad that the pin came out! Get her cleaned up and let us see her sew!
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Originally Posted by greywuuf
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Nice, glad that the pin came out! Get her cleaned up and let us see her sew!
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Originally Posted by J Miller
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Caroline,
I'm pleased as punch that broken piece came out without any trouble. The inside of that motor looks weird. Like maybe there's something missing. There's usually a second bearing on the shaft and that one doesn't seem to have one. Never seen the inside of one before so I'm just thinking out loud. My wife tells me I shouldn't do that. I get headaches when I do. Joe |
Thank you for rescuing this fine, old, machine. It will be lovely. Please keep us advised with pictures please.
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Good luck with getting that nice old machine going. Love more pictures after you are done making it prettier
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Hello Caroline, I also have one of these odd ball machines ,it is the machine in my avatar. the oil is in a small pan in the bottom of this machine ,it is wicked to oil the machine. and it is a good machine it sews a perfict stitch and is easy to use. could you please send me the place where you found the manuel. i could not use the knee part of it was missing ,so we put the foot control on it it runs just fine.
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Caroline, I will try to down load some pictures on thursday afternoon, my computer crashed on monday i just bought a new one and trying to get use to it, Dottie Bug, there are some photo s in the vintqage thread but i dont know what the pages are ,
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101 Update
My DD found another OSMG to work on her first Singer 29-4 patch machine and her Elna 7300. So I decided that rather mess with the motor and electrical connections myself on the 101 I would take it to him for the repairs. He quoted me $55 to service and repair/fix the electrical connections. As far as I was concerned that was a done deal. I hate messing with anything electrical because I was almost electrocuted when I was a kid.
What a character he is. If anyone has a mental idea as to what an OSMG looks like, then this guy is it. As he was looking over the machine head and cabinet, he kept saying OK, OK, hmmm, hmmm, easy easy. Just like a doctor, but better, he can fix my sewing machine! Then he had a couple of "Singer Bibles" that he kept referencing. I did not want to get tooo pushy and ask him what those Singer books were (for once I had to restrain myself) as it was the first time he was doing repairs for me. I am thinking, to myself of course, that I really NEED, really WANT, some of those Singer reference books. I am hoping that when I go to pick up my sewing machine that I can look at those books, and he may have some others laying around that he would part with. He used to have his own sewing and vacuum store and now does work out of his house. Then he began telling me that he has a whole addition built on the back of his house full of old machines and stuff that had been in his store. Gave me goose bumps. Again I had to restrain myself to not show my excitement. I felt like a racehorse at the starting gate, I was rearing to go and go see this stuff. Can't you just see me chomping on the bit? But I will do that when I pick up the 101. He and his wife have sewing machines stuffed all over the place. Then his wife mentioned that she has SEVERAL 301s that she might part with. Yikes, I want at least one. Will wait till the next visit to get serious about her 301s. As another note, my DD took her Elna 7300 Quilting Queen Pro to him because after paying over $200 to have it serviced and repaired at another place two months ago ( I posted a thread about the service cost a couple of months ago on the QB) the sewing machine was still not operating properly. He charged her $55 but it now works. And he found that it still needed cleaning underneath and even found a broken sewing machine needle in the underneath. Makes one wonder about the Quality of the work of the first repair shop. |
Originally Posted by Dottie Bug
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Hello Caroline, I also have one of these odd ball machines ,it is the machine in my avatar. the oil is in a small pan in the bottom of this machine ,it is wicked to oil the machine. and it is a good machine it sews a perfict stitch and is easy to use. could you please send me the place where you found the manuel. i could not use the knee part of it was missing ,so we put the foot control on it it runs just fine.
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Awesome. Congrats.
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I look forward to seeing what slant attachments that you have.
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Pics for Janis, Attachments
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Originally Posted by Janis
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I look forward to seeing what slant attachments that you have.
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They look like they might be for a slant shank machine, or at least some of them. What does the book from the button holer say? Does it say anything about what machine it fits, or anything about the shank? Does it have a plate that fits over the feed dogs? If it shows pictures, the needle will be slanted out toward the front. What do you want for them?
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The buttonholer pictured will fit any short shank machine. I use exactly the same model on my Featherweight and even on my Janome 6500 as it is a short shank machine too. Any of the Singer buttonholers in the green case (older ones are darker green cases with black buttonholers) fit short shank machines. The buttonholers in the dark rose or almost maroon cases are for slant shank machines (301 for example). They all came with a plate to cover the feeddogs but this is not needed if you are using it on a machine that you can drop the feeddogs (I do this with my Janome). Buttonholers were sold with five cams for different sized buttonholes and additional sets could be purchased separately.
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Thanks for the information, Shelbie. The other attachments do look like they are for the slant shank machines, don't they? This is the first time that I've had a slant shank machine and I'm new at looking for attachments to fit them. I wasn't sure about the buttonholer. It's good to know that they are color coded. That makes it a lot easier to see just what one is needed.
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101-4 Serial number
The singer 101-4 is just like the one I just bought at an antique mall this weekend. Not able to locate a serial number on machine, could you tell me where your serial number was located? Thank You.
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I don't have a 101, but from what I read and a couple that I have seen pictures of, it looks like on the underside of the bed on the right side.
Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do. |
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