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miriam 07-18-2014 09:33 PM

How does the needle go in the sewing machine and which way do I thread the needle?
 
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It seems like there is always someone having a problem with figuring out which way the needle goes in the machine and which way the thread goes in the needle.

Let's examine a NEEDLE BAR. Do you see a groove? [ATTACH=CONFIG]483974[/ATTACH]


The flat side of the needle always hugs the needle bar so it can be securely held in place.
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miriam 07-18-2014 09:34 PM

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Then when you thread the needle feel the groove on the needle - the thread goes in the groovy side. Some Singers have an arrow on the throat plate to show you which way to thread the needle. You will still have to get the needle in the right direction.
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miriam 07-18-2014 09:50 PM

Look at your needle. You will see a flat side and a rounded side at the top. Flat side toward the needle bar. At the bottom of the needle you will see a hole or eye. On one side of the hole most likely you will see a curve. On the other you will see a groove going from the eye of the needle to the rounded part at the top of the needle. Thread goes in the groovy side.

miriam 07-18-2014 09:51 PM

There are machines that take needles that do not have a flat side at the top or a curve at the eye. You will need to learn more if that is what you are using.

manicmike 07-18-2014 10:10 PM

Where's the like button again? Thanks Miriam, I'm sure many of us thought this would be a good idea, but you did it.
Y'know, I've seen those arrows but never thought about them. I think a link to this from the vintage machine resources might be in order. Just give me a minute.

HelenAnn 07-19-2014 05:07 AM

The light went on, I've always seen that arrow now I know what its for. (Like the the little gas pump in my car that shows me which side the fill door is on.)Thank you M

Blackberry 07-19-2014 05:13 AM

I never knew exactly what those arrows were for. Thank for the info.

tessagin 07-19-2014 05:19 AM

Always love refresher courses. Thanks!

zozee 07-19-2014 06:17 AM

Thank you for the groovy tute!

Caroline S 07-19-2014 06:18 AM

I also run my fingernail down the groove in the needle to make sure it is facing the correct way when I replace it. I did know about the arrows.

Rodney 07-19-2014 08:07 AM

Thanks Miriam! You're right. This is one of the most common reasons a machine won't sew. I think you've just helped a lot of people.
Rodney

ThayerRags 07-19-2014 08:30 AM

Don't forget that the pointy-end of the needle usually goes down.

CD in Oklahoma

miriam 07-19-2014 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by thayerrags (Post 6808326)
don't forget that the pointy-end of the needle usually goes down.

Cd in oklahoma

oh my how could i ever forget to include that?????????

Mizkaki 07-19-2014 12:59 PM

CD,

That put me on the floor. Great!

Cathy


Originally Posted by ThayerRags (Post 6808326)
Don't forget that the pointy-end of the needle usually goes down.

CD in Oklahoma


Mrs. SewNSew 07-20-2014 03:17 PM

I usually read the manual, but this would be so much easier! Thanks for writing it down.

miriam 07-20-2014 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. SewNSew (Post 6810211)
I usually read the manual, but this would be so much easier! Thanks for writing it down.

I don't always have the luxury of finding a manual. I have a machine I would love to have a manual for. It is a mystery how the levers on the top work.
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miriam 07-20-2014 03:32 PM

No problem figuring out the buttons and knobs but the top levers don't make any sense.

Rodney 07-20-2014 06:54 PM

That BAM lever seems familiar but I can't quite place it. Built in buttonhole function maybe. It's entirely possible I'm completely wrong too.
Rodney

miriam 07-21-2014 12:27 AM

If it is button hole how does it move from one part of the button hole to another?

frudemoo 07-21-2014 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by Rodney (Post 6810445)
That BAM lever seems familiar but I can't quite place it. Built in buttonhole function maybe. It's entirely possible I'm completely wrong too.
Rodney

It looks like a needle position lever - not sure what the letters stand for though. Does it move your needlebar? They are often gummed up, at least in the Necchi's I've seen.

Tink's Mom 07-21-2014 06:21 AM

Great tutorial! Now I know what that silly arrow means....

J Miller 07-24-2014 09:06 AM

I thought the arrow indicated the direction to stick your finger for the best needle penetration ..... :eek:

B A M = What kind of sewist you are ... :D

Beginner
Advanced
Master

Moving the lever gives you increased performance. You know, like those switches that increase the performance on the Corvettes ..... :cool:

miriam 07-26-2014 03:31 PM

NOTE:
I realize this is not true for every machine. If you want to be sure, look to be see that the curved part of the needle goes next to the hook. That is the sure fire way to have the needle in right on every machine. The info about the flat part of the shank going toward the shaft should work for your Singer 15s and 221s and 201s and many others - double check which side the hook goes compared to the needle.

ArchaicArcane 08-10-2014 08:42 PM

[QUOTE=miriam;6818722If you want to be sure, look to be see that the curved part of the needle goes next to the hook. That is the sure fire way to have the needle in right on every machine. [/QUOTE]

What's a hook? ;) I have had that question multiple times in the last couple of months, so I thought I'd raise it so that someone else wouldn't have to, or if there was someone who was too "shy" to ask.

manicmike 08-10-2014 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by ArchaicArcane (Post 6839914)
What's a hook? ;) I have had that question multiple times in the last couple of months, so I thought I'd raise it so that someone else wouldn't have to, or if there was someone who was too "shy" to ask.

Here's a good explanation: http://www.sewitworks.com/timing/

Jeanette Frantz 08-10-2014 11:06 PM

Miriam,

You're the greatest! You always come up with the answers someone needs! Thanks!

Jeanette

ArchaicArcane 08-10-2014 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by manicmike (Post 6839961)
Here's a good explanation: http://www.sewitworks.com/timing/

It's worth noting that there are sites out there that show this without trying to sell anything too. ;)

miriam 08-11-2014 01:15 AM

The hook question is why I didn't bring that up on page one window one but Ray White corrected me... :o It is true that you need to look at the hook (if you know what one is) to be sure - but on the most common machines that needle going flat against the needle bar will get you there.

mawluv 08-11-2014 01:56 AM

Thanks so much, Miriam, you are the greatest!!! I've learned so much from you and the guys here on the QB!!! Hope you all know how much we appreciate you.

manicmike 08-11-2014 02:48 AM


Originally Posted by ArchaicArcane (Post 6839976)
It's worth noting that there are sites out there that show this without trying to sell anything too. ;)

They were trying to sell something? I just looked at the pictures :)

ArchaicArcane 08-11-2014 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by miriam (Post 6840009)
The hook question is why I didn't bring that up on page one window one but Ray White corrected me... :o It is true that you need to look at the hook (if you know what one is) to be sure - but on the most common machines that needle going flat against the needle bar will get you there.

I used to do it the way you originally showed us. I moved to doing it using the hook way when I got the Longarm because it uses needles without a flat.

If Ray White corrected you, does that mean you're in his class again? Was this post for extra credit? ;) Thanks for it. I'd kept meaning to do something similar.


Originally Posted by manicmike (Post 6840038)
They were trying to sell something? I just looked at the pictures :)

Gee! Usually I hear it the other way around... "I was just reading the articles... honest"... ;) It was on the right side of the screen.

miriam 08-11-2014 10:31 PM

yup I was there after I did the tutorial. The official way to put in the needle IS to look at the hook but so many people don't do the hook thing and YES if the needle is round it won't work out to do the groove. I know that from my industrials. It is just an easy way for quite a few home machines.

miriam 03-15-2016 01:34 PM

Bumping pump

Cari-in-Oly 03-15-2016 05:28 PM

Miriam I've always threaded a machine following the flat of the needle, I learned this long before I knew anything about the hook or round shank needles. Thread the needle towards the flat. Flat side to the right, thread left to right, etc.

Cari

miriam 03-15-2016 05:56 PM

Cari, the flat side goes against the shaft. Since you are mostly using Japanese machines it is easy but if you get an old singer it can be hard to tell. Flat side against the shaft - thread goes in the groovie side.

Cari-in-Oly 03-15-2016 07:39 PM

Miriam I was just using the "flat to the right" as an example. We're saying the same thing, just a different perspective. Most of my Japanese machines have the flat to the back so they thread front to back. If the flat is to the left, it threads right to left, towards the flat. See?

Cari


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