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terri123 08-18-2011 11:44 AM

A tidbit from a Google website:
"Haid and Neu was established in 1860 in Karlsruhe but by 1868 only 2000 machines had been made. This had increased ten fold by 1872 and 1881 saw the firms 100,000th machine. By 1898 half a million machines had been made. The million was reached in 1904 and two million machines had been made by 1921. The Company survived the Second World War but in 1958 was taken over by Singer."

Debbie C 08-18-2011 12:39 PM

If you take the manual to a local college, I'm sure someone in the languages department can translate for you. Or you can go to translation.com and do it yourself - what fun!!

ree-nee 08-18-2011 01:28 PM

WOW! Beautiful.

luce321 08-18-2011 02:30 PM

Looks like a very nice machine. Sorry, I have never heard of this brand.

BrendaY 08-18-2011 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by Patchesnposies
.....a poor, abused and unloved machine yesterday. The sad thing is I cannot even speak its language! It is a Haid & Neu treadle in a cabinet/table. I paid $15 to rescue it.

The manual is, of course, all in German. I cannot tell how old it is, I am thinking maybe the 50's?

It has the bobbin case and even the leather belt and wheel. I am hoping we can get her fixed up and usable again.

She belonged to someone's "ex" M-I-L and was brought over in 1966 when she died. She had been stored none to carefully or gently in a garage (or perhaps an outside shed).

The cabinet/table is oak and seems to be original to the machine. It, too, needs some TLC.

Anyone familiar with this brand, Haid & Neu? (I did read it was taken over by Singer in 1958) Any advice on refurbishing it?

These photos were taken at the time of rescue!

Thanks,

Patches

Nice machine! And I'm sure Billy will have info for you... also, we found out that the Smithsonian Museum has lots of online information on the old machine, and you can get copies of their manuals from them too.

We had an old treadle that hubby thought he would fix up for me, and I was so excited about it... Turned out that he enjoyed the research, but the actual machine not so much... Gave it to a local thrift shop... I was really sad... but recently found my great old Kenmore and it runs perfectly already... Like new!

BarbaraSue 08-18-2011 07:52 PM

lucky you! she's a beauty:)

TacoMama 08-18-2011 08:34 PM

Never heard of the name, but thrilled you rescued her!

GrannieAnnie 08-18-2011 08:36 PM

Glad she found someone to love her!

Olivia's Grammy 08-20-2011 09:14 AM

Poor baby. Glad you rescued her. I used to do that until I ran out of room.

Terryl 08-20-2011 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Patchesnposies

Originally Posted by janallyn
i wonder if you could type the instructions in the computer then use the translator, i am not too bright about stuff, but it might be fun to try, it is a beaut

jan

What a great idea! One I will certainly use!

If that proves to be of little help I will probably have to find someone who speaks and reads German to help me.

Fortunately, the German Air Force has a small base here at Holloman. My husband teaches out there and often has German students.....(hmmmm, now the old cogs are turnin'!)

boardmember twistedquilter (NOT Twisted Quilter) is fluent in German, being born there and a former translator, give her a PM to help you out

redbugsullivan 08-20-2011 10:46 AM

I just think this board has some amazing folks! That machine will be SWEET when both are cleaned and ready to go.

Great job on the rescue!

butterflywing 08-21-2011 09:55 AM

http://www.ebay.com:80/itm/HEAVY-DUTY-HAID-NEU-INDUSTRIAL-STRENGTH-SEWING-MACHINE-/230643511752

any help?

miriam 08-21-2011 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by butterflywing
http://www.ebay.com:80/itm/HEAVY-DUTY-HAID-NEU-INDUSTRIAL-STRENGTH-SEWING-MACHINE-/230643511752

any help?

it is good machine but it is NOT industrial - it is heavy duty compared to your machines made today. http://sewing-machines.blogspot.com/...s-and-60s.html

butterflywing 08-21-2011 11:00 AM

what you have isn't japanese made, imo.

i also tried to find history of singer taking over, but i couldn't. where did you find that info?

i ran that picture because it has the same shape and the hand-wheel is the same. in the picture it also showed a serial number (i think) so i thought it might be a starting place for research.
i think you're right about the year - early 50'5, maybe late 40's - but that's a guess only. there are a couple on ebay right now, but no dates and no cabinets like yours. there isn't much info out there, is there? it's very handsome.

butterflywing 08-21-2011 11:37 AM

http://htmlimg3.scribdassets.com/9h2...be4d6f8bd0.jpg


The graphic style of this poster by AugustTrueb, dating from January 1928 andadvertising a Haid and Neu sewing machine,embodies the spirit of the machine age




i couldn't get the printed section to copy, but this is the text section above. this is an ad from 1928. does it look like yours in silhouette?
it was already electrified.

Patchesnposies 08-21-2011 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by butterflywing
http://htmlimg3.scribdassets.com/9h2...be4d6f8bd0.jpg


The graphic style of this poster by AugustTrueb, dating from January 1928 andadvertising a Haid and Neu sewing machine,embodies the spirit of the machine age




i couldn't get the printed section to copy, but this is the text section above. this is an ad from 1928. does it look like yours in silhouette?
it was already electrified.

This does look like it! Mine is a treadle like this one, but I can't imagine it as old as 1928. The cabinet look much more modern, too. (My cabinet that is.)

Patchesnposies 08-21-2011 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by butterflywing
what you have isn't japanese made, imo.

i also tried to find history of singer taking over, but i couldn't. where did you find that info?

i ran that picture because it has the same shape and the hand-wheel is the same. in the picture it also showed a serial number (i think) so i thought it might be a starting place for research.
i think you're right about the year - early 50'5, maybe late 40's - but that's a guess only. there are a couple on ebay right now, but no dates and no cabinets like yours. there isn't much info out there, is there? it's very handsome.

No, definitely not made in Japan. It says Haid & Neu Karlsruhe on the front of it, on a circular decal.

Here is the text where I got the info about being taken over by Singer:

Faudels: Serial No. 659437.
Imported and badged by Faudels of London who purchased sewing machines from various German manufacturers. This particular machine is believed to have been made by Haid & Neu around 1900. The machine itself has seen happier times. It has been dropped at some stage, but it has a beautiful Peacock decal which was Fauldels trade mark and Mother of Pearl inlay to the centre bed. There is a feeling of quality about this machine.

Haid and Neu was established in 1860 in Karlsruhe but by 1868 only 2000 machines had been made. This had increased ten fold by 1872 and 1881 saw the firms 100,000th machine. By 1898 half a million machines had been made. The million was reached in 1904 and two million machines had been made by 1921. The Company survived the Second World War but in 1958 was taken over by Singer.

And the link to the page where I got it (it is fourth up from the bottom): http://www.sewmuse.co.uk/german2.htm

Thanks so much for your help!

Patchesnposies 08-21-2011 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by butterflywing
http://www.ebay.com:80/itm/HEAVY-DUTY-HAID-NEU-INDUSTRIAL-STRENGTH-SEWING-MACHINE-/230643511752

any help?

This was a gorgeous machine! Later model than mine, I think.

butterflywing 08-21-2011 01:41 PM

i saw that page but thought those images were older than yours.
i also didn't see design work on yours. is there any hidden artwork? the cabinet looks anywhere from 1920 - 1950. the style is so simple and contemporary it's hard to tell, and who knows if that one was original to that very machine? that light wood was 'modern' in the 20's and still 'modern' when i was young in the mid-to-late 40's. i remember my parents had a bedroom set that color with those rounded edges and corners that they bought in the late 30's. very avant-garde. LOL!

if you find anything out please let me know. i love to learn the histories of the little-known manufacturers.

blanka 08-21-2011 03:40 PM

congrats to your to our awsome find . if you need help with the translation just ps me

ccrow99 08-22-2011 03:41 PM

Don't know if this will help, if you have an IPhone or know someone who does...there is a free translating application that you can download. Great find, so happy for you.


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