looking for help with old singer
 

I just bought an old singer machine from an antique store and need some help to find the model numbers and what the machine might be worth. It is built into a table, the machine is in real good condition but we think the foot pedal is missing. Sandia

A picture would help, can't identify it without seeing it. If it's a black Singer, the usual spot for the serial # is on the bed right in front of the pillar and many have the model on a little plate right below the Singer emblem. Most models of black Singers can be identified this way. If it's a colored machine the model should be somewhere on the front of the pillar.
The controller is probably up under the cabinet in a bracket with a knee lever.

Cari

Yes, picture or serial number should lead us to the correct model number. If you can describe how the stitch length adjuster looks like it will help; knob, lever or nut-screw type. The placing of the top tensioner is a clue, as well as bobbin covers and shape of bobbin and bobbin case. Over all color makes a difference too :-)

Finding out what a machine is worth is very subjective. Here in the St Louis area on Craigslist there will be over 200 sewing machines for sale at any given time, sometimes 300. That definitely lowers the price. Generally these machines aren't worth much. But we love them so it doesn't matter.

finding the model number
 

With the serial number, you can go to http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mach...-database.html and find out the model number by looking up the serial number. You can also go to this site and answer some questions and it will tell you the model number. http://www.sandman-collectibles.com/id-singer-machines.htm#4.


bk

Is there a knee bar tucked into the table? The foot pedal could be mounted to the inside of the table and used as a knee control.

So the pictures I took I dont have on my computer just my phone. The machine is black and we think the foot pedal was taken off. I have a CAT.NO.BA3-B also has under that S.S.AU52-17-1. The machine was made in Elizabethport, NJ.

You have to send the pictures to your email or computer if you can't upload directly to the web from you phone. The numbers you post look like they are taken from the motor and not the body of the machine. A typical serial number have two letters followed by six numbers. Where it's placed can vary, especially later machines.

I am trying to email them so I can post, all I have right now is the plate I got the last info from. The machine is at my inlaws and they are not home for me to get any others.

I am going to have to get some other pictures so I can post them. The machine itself is Black with gold detail, and it folds down into the table.

There are two plates one on the machine and the other is attached to a small black box mounted inside the table. The previous numbers are from the machine.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]557030[/ATTACH] this is the plate on the machine.

Will post more pics after I can get them.

The black thing there is the motor, and the plate show specs and motor type; the machine serial number is embossed some where in the (presumably) black cast iron body. The black box inside the table I will guess is a a speed controller, likely a knee lever or you might be able to take it out and it's a foot pedal. They were set up with various speed controllers.

Do you see the spool pin at the right on base of the machine in the picture? Right behind it is a flat elongaded part, that's where the serial number is stamped into the cast iron base. Some models have it elsewhere, but it's better to wait until there are any picture.

http://www.instappraisal.com/sites/i...5)%20015_0.jpg

Sorry, I saw mickey's photo and thought it was the questioner.
bk

This White will give you an idea where to look.

fiddle base shows a real Singer ID, but with a maybe confusing bobbin winder and curved base.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]557355[/ATTACH]Finally got those pictures!!

[ATTACH=CONFIG]557357[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]557358[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]557359[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]557360[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]557361[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]557362[/ATTACH]

Model 66 dated with serial # allocated on July 8, 1930 and in my corner of the desert is worth between $40-75 as pictured. If the controller isn't in a knee bracket, you can lower that to $25-35.

It's a very nice model 66. I like the simpler decals yours has a lot, they are still in good condition. It should shine up very well. I would find a nicer lamp for it, something like this one. The one that's on now is a later addition, and the narrow type bakelite or shiny metal version with Singer logo was most common on the 66. The table is very nice too, it's a stable type, with furniture felt under the feet it makes it all run with out much noise. The black shellac finish and chromed parts are a bit dirty and needs a good cleaning, but looking at the internals under the base they are in nice clean condition. It should clean up perfectly. Since the plug and wire is the, I guess there is a knee controller in the table. It was very common with this type of cabinet, but it should't be too difficult to fit with a pedal since plugs and everything is there. The kneelever is nothing to worry about, they work very well.

Is the tension assembly on the right front or on the nose of the machine on the left, on the faceplate? The model 15 is on the faceplate. If it is on the right side, it could be a 66, 99, or 201. A round bobbin or shuttle? We would presume round, for a more modern machine. A 66 is heavy and big. A 99 is 3/4 size of the 66. A 201 is a machine with a tubular grease fitting on the top, right of the column and tension on the right side. Try looking on ISMACS to see the pictures, or even better, try Ebay. You will find it there for sure. After you get the serial number, you can look it up on ISMACS or singerco.com.