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JoshuaJames 05-01-2019 05:18 PM

Monogrammer Cams.
 
Interested in monogrammer cams for Singer or Sears monogrammer attachments. Have half the alphabet, problem is that they are not available in the UK. I have spare letters, if anyone interested I will swap one for one. Mine were purchased from USA through E-bay. Cost of cams was fine but postage to UK, through E-bay, has been around $30 for a single cam weighing a couple of ounces.
The cams I'm looking for are the long rectangular ones, they are also interchangeable with the Sears Kenmore attachment.

I have 9 machines now, all thrift/charity shop purchases, Singer slant machines (G), Newhome, Jones, Brother, all steel geared and working well. My latest buy was a 1400 series Kenmore (cost me an arm and a leg postage through E-bay USA-UK but well worth it). A growing collection of Singer, Simanco presser feet, must try some of the la-de-dah ones out sometime.

I keep looking at quilting but no quite ready for it yet. Still trying to perfect making Victorian detachable collars in Egyptian cotton, unless anybody knows of a better suited fabric.

Farmhousesewer 05-03-2019 07:27 AM


I keep looking at quilting but no quite ready for it yet. Still trying to perfect making Victorian detachable collars in Egyptian cotton, unless anybody knows of a better suited fabric.

Would love to see some of your work! I believe the E C is perfect for what you are doing.

Will keep an eye out for cams.

JoshuaJames 05-03-2019 11:20 AM

Thank you Maria from Tennessee, quite a demand for detachable collar. I live very near Beamish Museum www.beamish.org.uk
, open air with rebuilt period buildings and costumed workers. How long we remain in EC is anybodies guess.. I have just taken delivery of a 404 Quilter Professional (£249 inc tax) computerised but what a difference in build to my old Singers and the old Kenmore. Don't think it will survive as long. I was attracted by the inbuilt alphabet. I will in time try to put some photographs on here but still having trouble navigating and understanding Blogs. "Gan canny",as they say round here. Joshua

Rose_P 05-03-2019 09:40 PM

Joshua, I believe Maria typed "E C" to mean "Egyptian Cotton".

You are certainly correct about the differences between the old machines and new. I wouldn't want to part with either, but if push comes to shove the ones to bank on are the oldies with lots of metal.

If you haven't checked Etsy for the cams, that's randomly a source for vintage machine accessories. I found a number of Bernina cams there. I will keep an eye out for the cams. Which letters are you missing?

If you're serious about monogramming, an embroidery machine would be much more rewarding, IMO. Even a lower-end Brother embroidery machine will make a much more beautiful monogram than any sewing machine, and in versatile sizes. It will also do other fancy embroidery, of course, and you may find yourself taking on a whole new hobby, as I did about 2 years ago.

Of course, if you have the patience and skill you can learn to do freehand satin stitch embroidery and monogramming with a zig-zag machine. In 1966 I watched a sewing machine salesman demonstrating this technique on a brand new White zigzag. He made it look extremely easy, but then I tried it. :p

Here's a video by Clare Rowley that shows the basics. She makes a ridiculous statement that a 3 yr-old could have fun with this - no, no, no and no - sorry, that's just nuts! The video is extremely slow getting started and she's pushing her products, but I didn't find a better demonstration or one on a vintage machine. Interestingly, she mentions that "we used to" be able to adjust the zigzag width while sewing. Those of us with old zigzags still have that option. With her skills, you could do it on a straight stitcher. You could slide this to the halfway point if you just want to watch the embroidery part and miss the cute doggie and other asides. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDzwY5nJZp4

JoshuaJames 05-04-2019 12:34 AM

Thanks Rose P, i did think she meant European Community, so much Brexit on all news at the moment. I am using Egyptian cotton fabric. I had tried freehand lettering after watching a video. The video looked so easy, a fast running machine, and little explanation. The video you linked has given me new inspiration. I will practice with my new computerised machine as it has a slow speed setting. Once confident I will revert to my old machines, as you say they are a lot stronger having survived 40/50 even 60 years. As an old aged pensioner I do have all the time in the world to practice.
A lifetime interest in words and lettering, this is brilliant way of spreading my interest. There is a lot of "steam-punks" about now, another group that may be interested in having items monogrammed. The machine I bought has only one font, one size, but it does have speed adjustment. My foot pedal control is not brilliant, I did read a thread on here about knee controllers; at times the pedal ends up on the table but it leaves me with only one hand free. I will save toward a machine such as Brother, Singer, Janome etc.
Many thanks again, your reply has encouraged me to try again at freehand work.
Joshua

Sewing Susie 06-13-2019 01:53 AM

Hi everyone! I have a Kenmore 158.1690, Convertible sewing machine and I am looking for the monogrammer that is used with it. I have looked and googled everything possible. I bought a part # 43560 for rear attachment but it does not line up to fit in the rear pop up. Can anyone point me in the right direction, please?

Macybaby 06-13-2019 04:11 AM

Susie, at least those for the Kenmore are way easier to find than the Singers, as they were sold as full sets, while the Singer was sold with a coupon for three cams - very few people bought the full set of cams.

Can you post a picture of what the problem is, I'm not following what you are describing. I've only found two styles, one for the open arm machine, one for the flat bed machine. So I'm wondering if you have a different monogrammer than the one I'm thinking of. BTW, if you bought the "Sears" one that is about the same as the Singer that the OP was talking about, that is different than what I'm talking about.

leonf 06-13-2019 06:51 AM

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Joshua James. I may be buying some monnogram cams this weeknd. I'll see better what they look like and there shape and see if they are duplicates. I am also chasing a Jones without a bobbin.

GF and I like to dress Victorian. She made all the garb. except the hats.[ATTACH=CONFIG]613778[/ATTACH]

Sewing Susie 06-13-2019 05:24 PM

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[ATTACH=CONFIG]613802[/ATTACH]Note where the long hole is. On the monogrammer, the piece that goes in that hole is on the
other side.

OurWorkbench 06-13-2019 06:25 PM

I don't have the free arm monogram attachment, but do have the one for flat bed Kenmores. Granted, I haven't tried it, yet. Could you take a picture of the attachment top and bottom off the machine? Also are there slots in the back that the tabs in the attachment fit into. I'm wondering if you need to have the 'arm' piece attached to the free arm of the machine, so that you can "snap" the plate portion into place????

Not often, but I have seen manuals that have incorrect images and instructions. I know I saw one that had the bobbin threaded incorrectly and another that had a page with correction stapled in a manual.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

Rose_P 06-13-2019 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by leonf (Post 8264948)
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GF and I like to dress Victorian. She made all the garb. except the hats.

Leon, that's a lovely and talented Victorian lady friend you have, You're both ready for a visit to Dickens on the Strand in Galveston, and annual event around the beginning of December. We haven't been in a number of years, so I'm not sure if it's still the case, but probably an authentic costume gets you in free. They will have a website. They ought to pay you to bring the penny farthing!

Trying to tie this in with the thread, there are some antique stores along the way, maybe with vintage sewing parts?

Sewing Susie 06-14-2019 03:03 AM

A picture of the plate that is raised in the above picture?

Sewing Susie 06-14-2019 03:27 AM

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Macybaby 06-14-2019 05:06 AM

That is interesting - I did not know that there were two versions of the monogrammer for the open arm machine.

I think the only way you'll find one is to ask sellers for a picture and match it up. It's probably a timing thing, ones made before a certain date are one way, those after are another. But they may look the same except for where that lever is.

OurWorkbench 06-14-2019 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sewing Susie (Post 8264810)
,,,, I bought a part # 43560 for rear attachment but it does not line up to fit in the rear pop up. Can anyone point me in the right direction, please?

Is the circled in red the buttonholer or monogrammer? My guess is that one has to remove plate 95703 and replace it with the buttonholer or monogrammer. I think they will have a hole of sorts to which fits the peg circled in blue, which can be seen in the picture with the needle plate.

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Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

OurWorkbench 06-14-2019 06:44 AM

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I'm also wondering if there is some sort of peg on the attachment underside that isn't as long as the metal piece on the plate 95703.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

Sewing Susie 06-15-2019 10:55 AM

The red circle is my monogrammer. The blue circle is attached to the machine and when the buttonhole attachment goes on it lines up with that gear. When I pop off that top piece, see pic in your post below it is not on that piece. My monogrammer doesn’t fit because it has a peg that needs to go in the long hole on the left but it’s on the right of my monogrammer.

OurWorkbench 06-15-2019 11:28 AM

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Does the bottom of your monogrammer look like https://www.flickr.com/photos/768556...n/photostream/

It may not need to have anything that goes into that long slot. Is that a hole on the right nearest the needle plate? as indicated by green circle? I think the brass pin may fit/snap into that hole?
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Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

OurWorkbench 06-15-2019 05:34 PM

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You aren't anywhere near Denver Colorado, are you?

I have tried to roughly draw the bottom of the monogrammer as I think it looks (in my Paint program). I have marked red circles where I think it attaches. I have indicated with green arrows those parts that should match when the monogrammer is snapped into place after latching the red circles.

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Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

Sewing Susie 06-16-2019 02:37 AM

Your drawing is correct. The green arrow in your drawing is a peg that sticks out much longer than in the pictore. It prevent the monogrammer from being snapped down. The green arrow in my pic does nothing. If you look at the pic I posted with the lid up you can see how the lid snaps down and what goes in the long hole. In the monogram directions it shows the green arrow, in your pic going into a long hole. But it’s on the opposite side. The other monogrammer 41704 is also for a different model. Mine is a convertible but 1690 is my model.

Sewing Susie 06-16-2019 11:18 AM

I am home playing around. I am going to saw off the metal thing that is stopping the monogrammer from snapping into place.

OurWorkbench 06-16-2019 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by Sewing Susie (Post 8266197)
I am home playing around. I am going to saw off the metal thing that is stopping the monogrammer from snapping into place.

Shucky, darn. Sorry it didn't work out. I'm wondering what is underneath that would need the "stop" of the peg below.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

Dressmaker 06-17-2019 06:02 PM

kenmore158.18140 monogram
 
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I found all of these Kenmore accessories at a thrift store today. Button and Monogrammer with all templates, full set of cams, chain stitch adapter, Q foot and Q needles. They all look brand new never used.

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leonf 06-18-2019 05:54 AM

I don't have a picture yet. but the monogrammer and cams I bought Friday are only for slant nose singers.

Dressmaker 06-18-2019 05:50 PM

Kenmore model 158.18140 ( 158 1814 18140 )
 
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Here is the sewing machine that goes with collection of cams and accessories.
It's a Kenmore 158.1840.

:thumbup:
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Dressmaker 06-20-2019 07:03 PM

Singer monogrammer slant shank
 
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Here are some pictures of the Singer slant shank monogrammer and cams.

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jtarte 09-08-2020 05:37 AM

Hi, I just read your post, I was looking for letters Cam/Template: "I", "Q", "U", "V", "X" and "Z".

I have some letters CAM and Templates, Singer Vintage Lot of two (2) items, have it on EBAY but I'm open to any exchange:

(1) Deluxe Monogrammer #171276, box includes: Monogrammer attachment in good condition and working, instruction manual and original box. 1- "Flower" CAM + Template. 2- Letter "A" CAM + Template. 3- Letter "B" CAM + Template. 4- Letter "E" CAM + Template. 5- Letter "H" CAM + Template. 6- Letter "J" CAM + Template. 7- Letter "M" CAM + Template. 8- Letter "N" CAM + Template. 9- Letter "P" CAM + Template. 10- Letter "R" CAM + Template. 11- Letter "T" CAM + Template. Additional ONLY Templates for letters: "C", "G", "H", "J", "L", "M", "P", "S".

(1) Professional Buttonholder V102878, box include: Buttonholder attachment in good condition and working, feed cover plate, instruction manual and original box. 1- Eight (8) Green templates 3/8", 1/2", 5/8", 13/16", 15/16", 1 1/16", 1 1/4", 1 1/2". 2- Five (5) Brown templates 7/8", 1 1/16", 1 1/4", 1 3/8", 1 1/2". 3- Six (6) Beige templates 13/16", 15/16", 1 1/16", 1 1/4", 1 3/8", 1 1/2"

For shipping please contact seller for more details and cost. We will be using DHL or UPS for delivery


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