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Noiseynana 04-06-2013 12:27 PM

NEED Necchi help please
 
I fell for a Necchi machine model 536FB today. I mean I fell for the sales pitch, Yes it does work. I trusted him and spent $20.00 for it. Got it home and out of the car and nothin works. I mean NOTHIN!!! Yard sale at a empty store lot. Have no idea who these people were. ANy way the needle is stuck down , the darn thing won't move at all. ANd when I went to plug it in to the wall ( its in a cabinet) there is no foot/knee pedal. Boy did I get took. I have a big problem trusting people. I swear they see "sucker" on my forehead when I go in and "idiot " on my butt as I leave. Where do I go from here? ANy advice? Please??????

Candace 04-06-2013 01:34 PM

You crack me up. Sorry you got took. I've been "taken" a few times myself. It's actually why I got so involved with repairing machines. You believe people that it 'works' and then have to learn how to repair it or lose all your money!

You can get a foot control for it from SewClassic. Shoot Jenny an e-mail and she can tell you which one to order. You'll have to clean it and order some Triflow from Jenny. Don't use it on the motor, but open it up and oil the metal parts that move. You may need a new belt too.

Caroline S 04-06-2013 01:47 PM

Sit down and take a deep breath. Then take a good look at your "naughty" Necchi. If you can remove the needle then remove the bobbin case (hope she came with one) and clean out any old lint and threads that might have jammed the machine. If she were mine I remove the top cover and oil everything that looks as if it would move. Open the face cover and do the same. Not sure about the underneath though. If you have another sewing machine with a cord block and foot controller you should be able to use it to see if your machine is functional motorwise. Look on the bright side, the cabinet might be usable for another sewing machine if the Necchi turns out to be a door stop.

Mitch's mom 04-06-2013 02:27 PM

look inside the cabinet in the right hand corner. The foot control might be in a bracket on the side. It may be wired as a knee control.
A word of wisdom from one who has also been taken: Always try to move the hand wheel, check for a bobbin case and the power cords and foot control. If one of those 3 things are missing or not working I pass. Life is too short and sewing machines too plentiful. This does not apply to a Pfaff or a Bernina machine; even if they don't work, the parts have value.

Noiseynana 04-06-2013 03:56 PM

Thank you all sooooooo much. I did take the top off and splattered wd-40 all in it. I figured if it worked , great but if not then what the heck. whwhwhwhaaaaaaa The power cords are hangin loose and there is nothing there that could even look like a control. So now I've emailed Sew-classic and I'll see what they say. ( I mean before beatin the daylights out of the durn thing with a hammer. Good thing I got a cabinet now that I can put my brother or singer in. Besides , I have found out that sometimes a hammer is just the thing to get it movin. hehehe

miriam 04-07-2013 03:49 AM

Here is a link to my fixing up a stuck 15 clone - I just used Tri-flow. Some times it takes a little while for the tri-flow to work - have patience.
http://www.quiltingboard.com/vintage...r-t169127.html
More info toward the end than in the badly done pictures.

Noiseynana 04-07-2013 04:49 AM


Originally Posted by miriam (Post 5983490)
Here is a link to my fixing up a stuck 15 clone - I just used Tri-flow. Some times it takes a little while for the tri-flow to work - have patience.
http://www.quiltingboard.com/vintage...r-t169127.html
More info toward the end than in the badly done pictures.

Miriam, I will order triflow today. Love the blue machine. I'll try to be patient , bbbuuuuttttt I don't know. hehehe

miriam 04-07-2013 05:20 AM

heat can help too but you don't want to melt plastic or paint... T-F is the best - it can be found at bike shops, too. The blue machine was abandoned again. Hannah left my son with the machine - he gave Janie back to me and I sold the machine.

BuzzinBumble 04-07-2013 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by Noiseynana (Post 5982409)
I swear they see "sucker" on my forehead when I go in and "idiot " on my butt as I leave.

What happened isn't funny, but when I read the funny way you described it, I burst out laughing. You are too funny Noiseynana! The others here already gave you good advice, I just wanted to say - keep that great sense of humor and it will help you through many a situation.

BertieD 04-07-2013 09:41 AM

BuzzinBumble: Your "My husband lets me buy all the fabric I can hide" made me laugh out loud! Thanks for the chuckle!

mtpockets1 04-07-2013 12:47 PM

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Thought this might help to check the Brother machine cord because it might fit. Here's a picture of the plug. If you go on EBay they have stuf for the newer machines too. Not sure if the 534 will fit the 536 though. Good Luck! Also have a Necchi BF that wouldn't move and waisted masses of time with oil and heating it up, ended up the bobbin case holder was put back incorrectly. So check that too, maybe you'll be as lucky as I was. Lisa
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Noiseynana 04-07-2013 05:12 PM

Yall have made my day.....maybe week. hehehe I never thought of heat . I just rely on my hammer. I'm thinkin that there is so much wrong with it that Imay just paint the cabinet and use my ole singer portable in it. oh and the plugie thingie that is shown in the picture. I ain't got one like that. This silly thing has a plug that goes into the wall. In fact it has 2 of 'em. And to top it all off , the cords they are on are only like 12 inches long. I think the hammer . What do yall think? hehehe

miriam 04-07-2013 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by Noiseynana (Post 5985372)
Yall have made my day.....maybe week. hehehe I never thought of heat . I just rely on my hammer. I'm thinkin that there is so much wrong with it that Imay just paint the cabinet and use my ole singer portable in it. oh and the plugie thingie that is shown in the picture. I ain't got one like that. This silly thing has a plug that goes into the wall. In fact it has 2 of 'em. And to top it all off , the cords they are on are only like 12 inches long. I think the hammer . What do yall think? hehehe

Your machine is missing the cord unit - You can buy them at sew-classic http://shop.sew-classic.com/Cord-Set...143-SCE143.htm The plugs from your machine go in that - match up the motor plug with the motor outlet and then match up the light with the light outlet - one end of it goes to a foot petal you will need to wire on and the other end goes in the wall. HAMMER? Those are usually pretty good old machines and if you have the patience will last longer than your lifetime.

Marich52 04-07-2013 07:14 PM

I don't know what year your machine is but my old girl is a 1952. I let her sit for a couple of years and then she wouldn't budge! Hauled her around in the back of my car when it was 100+ degrees outside before taking her to the shop. To my surprise, upon arrival she worked just fine. The service man told me the internal lubrication was a thick grease type and had solidified....the heat melted it so the machine was fine. All I could think of was Crisco.....lol.

miriam 04-08-2013 02:26 AM


Originally Posted by Marich52 (Post 5985607)
I don't know what year your machine is but my old girl is a 1952. I let her sit for a couple of years and then she wouldn't budge! Hauled her around in the back of my car when it was 100+ degrees outside before taking her to the shop. To my surprise, upon arrival she worked just fine. The service man told me the internal lubrication was a thick grease type and had solidified....the heat melted it so the machine was fine. All I could think of was Crisco.....lol.

3 in 1 oil will really do a number. Some times the oil has paraffin in it and it sets up like that. Tri-flow usually will help with the gunk.

Noiseynana 04-08-2013 03:00 AM

Ok yall convinced me. THe hammer is out in the barn for now. hehehe I am gonna get the hair dryer and see what will happen. This cord business now makes sense. Well kinda.Any how I'll work on her today. If all else fails, I can always take her in to repair. In Fort Smith there is a fixer uper place that has a coupon once in a while for cleaning and adjusting for less than $20.00. Boy is he in for a surprise. hehehhe

Noiseynana 04-08-2013 01:22 PM

YIPPIE!!!!! Guess what ? I finally got the knob to turn, the needle out and the thingie that raises the foot now moves too. It only too wd40, a full can of degreaser and a paint striper gun. Hey it worked for those things. SOoooooo now I'll let her sit and moan for a few days then try it all again. Thanks for all yalls support. I really needed the help and encouragement. Thanks , Eileene

cricket_iscute 04-08-2013 05:20 PM

You used WD40? Be sure you clean it all out of there and replace it with Triflow oil for metal on metal areas and Triflow grease for gears. If you can't find Triflow, use sewing machine oil and Singer lubricant (in a small tube), which you can get at any sewing store. WD40 is NOT a lubricant and will cause problems over time. The same goes for 3 in 1 oil and anything except sewing machine oil. Use cotton swabs to clean it out. Do not make things worse by using some other cleaner.

I'm not sure if I want to ask about the degreaser. Too bad I didn't see this thread earlier.

I'm not claiming to be perfect or to know everything, but I am a certified sewing machine mechanic. I work on many different machines. I would never use what you did. Sorry!

miriam 04-08-2013 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by cricket_iscute (Post 5987763)
You used WD40? Be sure you clean it all out of there and replace it with Triflow oil for metal on metal areas and Triflow grease for gears. If you can't find Triflow, use sewing machine oil and Singer lubricant (in a small tube), which you can get at any sewing store. WD40 is NOT a lubricant and will cause problems over time. The same goes for 3 in 1 oil and anything except sewing machine oil. Use cotton swabs to clean it out. Do not make things worse by using some other cleaner.

I'm not sure if I want to ask about the degreaser. Too bad I didn't see this thread earlier.

I'm not claiming to be perfect or to know everything, but I am a certified sewing machine mechanic. I work on many different machines. I would never use what you did. Sorry!

I have to agree with you on that one Cricket. We have some wonderful tutorials on the sticky notes - Muv did a fantastic job of telling how to clean up a machine.

miriam 04-08-2013 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by cricket_iscute (Post 5987763)
You used WD40? Be sure you clean it all out of there and replace it with Triflow oil for metal on metal areas and Triflow grease for gears. If you can't find Triflow, use sewing machine oil and Singer lubricant (in a small tube), which you can get at any sewing store. WD40 is NOT a lubricant and will cause problems over time. The same goes for 3 in 1 oil and anything except sewing machine oil. Use cotton swabs to clean it out. Do not make things worse by using some other cleaner.

I'm not sure if I want to ask about the degreaser. Too bad I didn't see this thread earlier.

I'm not claiming to be perfect or to know everything, but I am a certified sewing machine mechanic. I work on many different machines. I would never use what you did. Sorry!

I have to agree with you on that one Cricket.

We have some wonderful video tutorials on the sticky notes - Muv did a fantastic job of telling how to clean up a machine. The stick notes are on the top of the sewing machine enthusiasts page - you can't miss it - the harsh chemicals, hammers and other tactics can harm your machine. Makes me wonder if you aren't trying to set yourself up for a repaint job or something, Noiseynana.

miriam 04-08-2013 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by cricket_iscute (Post 5987763)
You used WD40? Be sure you clean it all out of there and replace it with Triflow oil for metal on metal areas and Triflow grease for gears. If you can't find Triflow, use sewing machine oil and Singer lubricant (in a small tube), which you can get at any sewing store. WD40 is NOT a lubricant and will cause problems over time. The same goes for 3 in 1 oil and anything except sewing machine oil. Use cotton swabs to clean it out. Do not make things worse by using some other cleaner.

I'm not sure if I want to ask about the degreaser. Too bad I didn't see this thread earlier.

I'm not claiming to be perfect or to know everything, but I am a certified sewing machine mechanic. I work on many different machines. I would never use what you did. Sorry!

I have to agree with you on that one Cricket.

We have some wonderful video tutorials on the sticky notes - Muv did a fantastic job of telling how to clean up a machine. The stick notes are on the top of the sewing machine enthusiasts page - you can't miss it - the harsh chemicals, hammers and other tactics can harm your machine. Makes me wonder if you aren't trying to set yourself up for a repaint job or something, Noiseynana.


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