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Jackie R 10-27-2014 06:25 PM

Old Singer - need info
 
My daughter came into possession of an old singer - when I check with the Singer web site, all I can tell is that it is a 1955 model but can't find out anything else. It's Model #EK962301. Does anyone know anything about it and what kind of value it might have if she wants to sell it and are there quilters that use this model??? and if they sew with it, how do they like it. It looks to be in very good condition & has the case too.

Thanks for any info you can provide.

crocee 10-27-2014 08:19 PM

Your machine is a 99K allotted on Nov 23, 1955. As for what its worth, anywhere between $1 and $1,000,000. In other words whatever your market or area will pay. To be worth any real value it would have to be rare and this 99K isn't, there were 50,000 allotted that run. The 99's are also very common.

Candace 10-27-2014 10:16 PM

You can research your area on Craigs List or closed auctions on ebay. I would bet you find it's easier to give the machine to someone who'll refurb. and use it then to go to the hassle of selling it and making $20. Vintage sewing machines don't sell for much generally unless they're rare (this one is not), in great working condition and have been fully serviced and are operational.

miriam 10-28-2014 02:07 AM

You can look on Singerco and find a manual. IMHO they are a great little machine. Do have it serviced and then use it. The Singer 99 is what I started my DGD out on - she moved on. When the girls stay here they go to my little HC 99 for everything even though I have others set up for them to test out.

celwood 10-28-2014 03:52 AM

I agree that the 99s are a great little machine. I do all of my piecing on it

binkister 10-28-2014 08:37 AM

I found a Singer with the info AF712744 on it and cannot get an manual off the singer site. Any help on me getting a manual would be greatly appreciated. thanks Myra

SteveH 10-28-2014 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by binkister (Post 6947179)
I found a Singer with the info AF712744 on it and cannot get an manual off the singer site. Any help on me getting a manual would be greatly appreciated. thanks Myra

http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mach...l-numbers.html

AF-700151 through AF-720150
Model: 15
Qty ordered to be built this batch: 20,000
Ordered on: December 18 1940

http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mach...ion-manual.pdf

Rodney 10-28-2014 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by binkister (Post 6947179)
I found a Singer with the info AF712744 on it and cannot get an manual off the singer site. Any help on me getting a manual would be greatly appreciated. thanks Myra

If it has the built in (on) motor instead of the more standard motor and belt setup most machines have it's a 15-91. I'm not sure if there's a different manual for those or not and I'm not sure when they started producing them either.
Rodney

SteveH 10-28-2014 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by Rodney (Post 6947223)
If it has the built in (on) motor instead of the more standard motor and belt setup most machines have it's a 15-91. I'm not sure if there's a different manual for those or not and I'm not sure when they started producing them either.
Rodney

Good point.
http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mach...uals/15-91.pdf

Sewnoma 10-28-2014 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by Jackie R (Post 6946420)
My daughter came into possession of an old singer - when I check with the Singer web site, all I can tell is that it is a 1955 model but can't find out anything else. It's Model #EK962301. Does anyone know anything about it and what kind of value it might have if she wants to sell it and are there quilters that use this model??? and if they sew with it, how do they like it. It looks to be in very good condition & has the case too.

Thanks for any info you can provide.

Funny...I JUST bought this machine's close sibling! Mine is from January 1956 and it's a 99K also. I can tell you I paid $45 for mine at a charity shop, but I live in an expensive area so that's probably an inflated price compared to a lot of places. Mine "works" except it's gunked up with old oil and needs cleaning. Mine has the case and manual but no extra accessories. Body & decals on mine are in really good shape. Not perfect, but really good. Case is in "good" shape, I guess - little bit of wear but doesn't stink of mold or smoke like so many of them do.

It's such a cute machine. I doubt I'd ever be able to sell it for much more than I paid for it, though. Mine was one of I think 50,000 released, so they really aren't rare. And the 99K's were made for decades so there must be thousands of them still kicking around.

Jackie R 10-28-2014 04:50 PM

Thank you all for all the information about the 99K Singer model and will pass the info along to my daughter. I told them too bad it isn't one of those little Featherweights I keep hearing about on this board - I'd ask to keep it at my home to use it. This 99K machine is very very heavy. Oh well. Thanks again for your help.

miriam 10-29-2014 01:11 AM

heavy is good - keeps it on the table.

Sewnoma 10-29-2014 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by Jackie R (Post 6947773)
Thank you all for all the information about the 99K Singer model and will pass the info along to my daughter. I told them too bad it isn't one of those little Featherweights I keep hearing about on this board - I'd ask to keep it at my home to use it. This 99K machine is very very heavy. Oh well. Thanks again for your help.

They ARE heavy little buggers, aren't they? All that glorious cast iron.

It's not quite as petite as a featherweight (3/4 size instead of 1/2 size) but if you ask me it's just as cute. I'm seriously in love with mine and I don't even have it fully functional yet!

binkister 10-29-2014 11:07 AM

How do I up load a picture of the singer to this site? It keeps saying uploading to this site failed.

SteveH 10-29-2014 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by binkister (Post 6948637)
How do I up load a picture of the singer to this site? It keeps saying uploading to this site failed.

Make sure the picture is 640x480 or around that in size. If you took a picture with your cell it is probably too large

binkister 10-29-2014 04:59 PM

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the older singer on the left is the one I had asked about getting a maual for. The cord going to the machine from the foot pedal at the machine are frayed. Can I take the motor and the foot pedal off and put the machine in the treadel cabinet on the right ( with the Athena 2000 in it) and make it a treadel again? It needs to be cleaned ,oiled and I will have to find the belt for it. It does run , I tried it before I realized the frayed wires. Thanks for the help and answering my questions. Myra
http://www.quiltingboard.com/attachm...d=497036&stc=1http://www.quiltingboard.com/attachm...d=497037&stc=1

binkister 10-29-2014 05:00 PM

sorry the pictures posted twice and they are not beside each other.

SteveH 10-29-2014 05:43 PM

Not your fault. That is the software settings of the site currently.

I think that would be a great idea.

Cari-in-Oly 10-29-2014 07:32 PM

No Steve, that's a 15-91 and can't be treadled.

Cari

miriam 10-30-2014 01:57 AM

You could treadle it if you take off the motor and put on a big hand wheel. You can buy belt guard/bobbin winders but finding the screws to hold the replacement BW on is another story. OR you could just find a side winder. BTW it would be a dandy treadle. I have done it a couple times. I borrowed/stole the belt guard screws and belt guard from a very dead clone.

Cari-in-Oly 10-30-2014 08:50 AM

But with so many 15s out there why would you want to do it to a 91?

Cari

J Miller 10-30-2014 11:14 AM

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It's a piece of cake to make a treadle or a hang on motor machine out of a Singer 15-91.
I've done it as an experiment.

First, disconnect all the wiring.

Second, remove the hand wheel.

Third, locate and remove the two screws holding the potted motor assembly on.

Fourth, clean the front of the machine.

Fifth, acquire a belt guard/bobbin winder, hand wheel, stop motion knob and washer, and motor with mount and light if you want, from a clone. The clone's screws that hold the bobbin winder/belt guard on will fit the Singer.

Sixth assemble in reverse order, plug in and sew up a storm.

If you go to Sew-Classic she has the belt guard and hand wheel for the conversion to hand cranks. She may also have the screws. That's really all you need to convert the Singer for treadle use.

Here's my 15-91 converted to be a Frankenstein machine:
http://www.quiltingboard.com/attachm...d=497104&stc=1
http://www.quiltingboard.com/attachm...d=497106&stc=1
The loaner machine is in the rear.

The two screws needed to mount the belt guard/winder should be available from most Singer repair
shops.

Joe

miriam 10-30-2014 01:32 PM

It can be hard to find the screws and NO sew-classic doesn't have the screws

Cari-in-Oly 10-30-2014 01:45 PM

Still doesn't answer my question. Why frankenstein a 91? When there are so many 15's.

Cari

miriam 10-30-2014 01:55 PM

bad wires - frozen up motor - I've seen some real gems around here - yup it was better to pull off the motor and put something else on it

miriam 10-30-2014 02:24 PM

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Cari,
some times they look pretty bad and it is easier to convert than to put a ton more time in an already bad project...
[ATTACH=CONFIG]497114[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]497115[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]497116[/ATTACH]
yes it now runs just fine - yes it was covered in rust and grime
no the motor was not worth saving
yes you see black chrome

J Miller 10-30-2014 02:32 PM

I forgot to mention you can use parts from a regular Singer 15 to do this also.

The machine I used in the pics above was a total mess. Rusted, coated with a black carbonized gunk that took denatured alcohol to get off ( hard on decals ), the wiring was a dangerous mess with petrified and gooey insulation on it.
I paid a whole $10.00 for it for the express purpose of learning how to rewire a potted motor. I did it, I got it all cleaned up, rewired and it sews just great. But it's still too ugly, and I've got too much time and effort in it to sell it, so it is one of our user machines.

It would have been far easier to convert it to a regular motor machine like my experiment, or to a hand crank or treadle machine with parts from another derelict machine.


Joe

miriam 10-30-2014 02:35 PM

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I think I ended up throwing out quite a few parts on that machine - a donor and a belt guard from Mizkaki gave it some new life though. I can see that it could use some more clean up. There is always something on some of them... I probably gave up on it or ran out of time. I've learned a lot since then from Glenn.
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miriam 10-30-2014 02:37 PM

HHHMMMM I think I need to go back over that machine. I think it could be improved a lot!

Jackie R 10-30-2014 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by miriam (Post 6948053)
heavy is good - keeps it on the table.

Good point, but I was thinking lighter weight for easy mobility and for moving it around for taking classes perhaps.

miriam 10-31-2014 01:30 AM


Originally Posted by Jackie R (Post 6950321)
Good point, but I was thinking lighter weight for easy mobility and for moving it around for taking classes perhaps.

Harbor Freight and other places have tool boxes on wheels. Getting it down into the rolling tool box isn't so hard. Get a friend to help lift it back up - you know a FOLK LIFT...

sdhaevrsi 10-31-2014 04:58 AM

I LOVE that, a "Folk Lift!" :D

binkister 10-31-2014 07:46 AM

Thanks for the info on the singer, but since I am not mechanically inclined , I think I will just get someone to replace the cord that goes into the machine from the foot pedal , and find some needles and read the manual that I copied and hope I can get it going. As I say It does run quite smoothly when I plugged it in and tried it. Now just have to learn how to use it. thanks again for the help and info. Myra

binkister 06-21-2016 08:58 AM

I had my machine cleaned and oiled. Used it to fill bobbin and it smoked and quit. Took it back the man who fixed it and he said it needs a new motor. I found this one motor on this site, but not sure if it is the right one to order for him to put on , as he has the machine .http://shop.sew-classic.com/Motor-Ne...s-SCE35L09.htm
could someone tell me if this would work and I can order it? thanks Myra

bkay 06-21-2016 12:17 PM

No, that's not it. it says "Fits on most machines that use an external, belt driven motor". Yours isn't belt driven. You're looking for a Singer "potted motor". I'm a novice, so that's all I know.
bkay

binkister 06-21-2016 04:37 PM

thanks, The man said he can't fix the motor and I need another one,but to make sure it says singer on it. Anyone have any ideas? thanks Myra


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