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Charliexx 02-18-2021 04:35 PM

Roberts treadle sewing machine
Looking for information, bobbins and needles. So far I have found nothing.
I am restoring my wifeís grandmotherís machine.
Serial number. 646926

OurWorkbench 02-18-2021 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by Charliexx (Post 8462088)
Looking for information, bobbins and needles. So far I have found nothing.
I am restoring my wife’s grandmother’s machine.
Serial number. 646926

Welcome. I think it is great to restore family heirloom machines. My guess that it was a machine made by another company/
"Back in the day" if a company bought so many machines from a manufacturer the company could put any name they wanted. According to Needlebar, it could be a Standard or Goodrich manufactured machine. With that being said, that doesn't mean that there could not be another manufacturer that had their machines stenciled with the name "Roberts" on it.

It would depend on who the manufacturer and which machine yours is as to the the bobbins and needles it uses. Standard made machines could take 15x1 or 20x1 needles. I think most of the Goodrich ones used 20x1 needles. The 15x1 needles are the needles that are used for most modern domestic machines.

It would really help to have a picture of your machine. We like pictures. In order to post pictures on Quilting Board, you will probably need to reduce or compress the picture to a file size that is smaller than 2MB. How to post images can be found at https://www.quiltingboard.com/attach...020-01-17-.pdf
Don't forget to scroll over to the far right to find and click on the "Upload" button.

I have found that only the big red "Reply" button or "Quote" work to give me the paper clip icon to work for adding pictures.

Some additional info regarding reducing images at post #4 and images for the scroll and upload button can be found at #5 of https://www.quiltingboard.com/main-f...d-t312607.html

I used to go to Needlebar and look through their gallery. Unfortunately, it is no longer around. It had been a great resource. Probably someone can identify who the manufacturer was if you post a picture.

Sometimes a serial number is not all that helpful for some of these machines, but sometimes one can get a general idea of the age by the style of machine or how long the company was in business.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.
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Charliexx 02-19-2021 08:01 AM

Tried to upload pictures and got this:

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OurWorkbench 02-19-2021 08:20 AM

Did you reduce the size of the pictures?
Did you use the paper clip icon?
After choosing the photos did you scroll over to the right to click on "upload"

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

Charliexx 02-19-2021 09:20 AM

Roberts pictures
4 Attachment(s)
OK, Here it goes again to upload pictures. Why does the file size limit says 5MP?

pocoellie 02-20-2021 04:32 AM

I can't help you with your request, but wanted to say that you've done a great job on the machine, table and irons

OurWorkbench 02-20-2021 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by Charliexx (Post 8462248)
... Why does the file size limit says 5MP?

Great question - that no one seems to have an answer for.

Thank you for posting pictures. Excellent job on restoring this machine. I know what a labor of love it can be.

I'm going to go out on a limb, as I cannot find anything to back-up my theory. To me, it looks like it may be a "National" machine. It looks a lot like http://needlebar.org/nbwiki/index.ph...2natvelox1.jpg The difference would be that the stitch length assembly is on the pillar rather than on the bed. I was thinking that the "Brunswick" was similar and thought I had a manual for it, but couldn't find it. Another machine similar, but electric, would be a Regal Paveway. A manual for it can be found at http://needlebar.org/main/manuals/re...ay/1index.html

I'm not sure, but I think that a lot of this type of "National" machines would take what is called a 20x1 needle. They can be found, (<link) but not as easily nor in the type & sizes as the 15x1 needles that most domestic machine use. However, I have heard many will use a 15x1 but need to not push it all the way up. I don't remember the distance and someone put a sheet magnet the correct size so that they could easily use 15x1 needles.

Hope this helps, somewhat.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.
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leonf 02-22-2021 12:40 PM

I just got a chance to see your pics. and I agree with Janey. This looks like a badged National to me.National did indeed move their stitch length levers around.

Charliexx 02-23-2021 12:05 PM

Thank you!

Charliexx 02-23-2021 12:19 PM

Here is a picture from Ebay that is no longer there so I don't know who's it is. I think it is a very close match to mine but different badge. Foley and Williams Manf. I don't see a means of adding a picture here so I'll post my Pinterest link and hope it works. It is the Improved New Goodrich No 2.

What do you think?

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