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SteveH 01-26-2016 07:58 AM

that works out to just over 1.8 inches. About the same size

jlhmnj 01-26-2016 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by steihy (Post 7446008)
Jon and Steve

I dont know how accurate the measurements are, but the needle that was in the machine - so grimy that the owner thought it was broken, had to clean it to find the eye - measures 1,87 mm shank diameter, 46 mm overall length. I can convert to inches, but I get confused by decimal inches - I leave it to you guys.
How long is the DBx1?

Hi,

The most critical measurement is the distance from the shank to the top of the eye. Once you have that dimension you can go through the Muva catalog to see which is closest.

http://needlebar.org/needles/index.htm

Unfortunately, Many of the old needles are no longer available or difficult to find.

The Dbx1 has a shank diameter of 1.60mm or 2 mm and shaft to eye is 33.9 mm. Pretty close to a 15x1 except it has a round shank.

Jon

ErgoTiger 01-26-2016 11:47 AM

I wasnt referring to attaching the upper to the outer sole. I was asking about embroidering the leather, and stitching the leather seams for leather boots, not saddles. "Well,no saddles yet :)"

Would the Singer 5532 with a walking-foot work, a brother brand or Juki brand be a solid investment, Im not willing to pay $3 for a machine just yet?

sewbeadit 01-26-2016 06:15 PM

While reading up on my 31-20 Singer, they were saying how it was used a lot for sewing boot uppers (cowboy boots) with a wheel roller foot for the decorative stitching and boy can they make pretty uppers. Probably any straight stich machine heavy enough could do that. Your walking foot could do it but that is mostly for straight stitching the way I understand it, not curvy designs.




Originally Posted by ErgoTiger (Post 7446349)
I wasnt referring to attaching the upper to the outer sole. I was asking about embroidering the leather, and stitching the leather seams for leather boots, not saddles. "Well,no saddles yet :)"

Would the Singer 5532 with a walking-foot work, a brother brand or Juki brand be a solid investment, Im not willing to pay $3 for a machine just yet?


jlhmnj 01-26-2016 09:24 PM

steihy,

I measured a few of the needles I mentioned previously and here are the results. The needles without the overall length are from the Muva catalog which I posted the link to. All have a 2mm shank except for 175x3 at 1.75mm

29x3, 29x4--(odd numbers cloth even leather) -----45.00mm length------38.83mm shank to eye
1x1, system 81 ---------------------------------------49.09-----------------42.52
16x63-------------------------------------------------45.20------------------40.08
175x3-------------------------------------------------------------------------41.4
135x16, 135x17--------------------------------------------------------------38.9

Jon

SteveH 01-27-2016 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by sewbeadit (Post 7446767)
... Your walking foot could do it but that is mostly for straight stitching the way I understand it, not curvy designs.

Depends on the walking foot machine. A patcher is a walking foot machine and it was specifically made to do stuff like the stitching on the sides of boots.. being able to rotate the walking foot 360 degrees while sewing really makes a difference. My first try with my 29-4 I sewed my name onto a belt....

sewbeadit 01-28-2016 04:48 PM

Steve, that is very nice to know.


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