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slc 09-11-2013 03:57 PM

Singer 99 vs 99k
 
What is the difference?

SteveH 09-11-2013 04:04 PM

as I understand it the K designates that it was made in Kilbowie Scotland

Macybaby 09-11-2013 04:10 PM

Like Steve said, the "K" designates where it was made. Same thing as the A - when Singer started using a letter for teh USA made machines.

Sometimes there are other differences too. From what I've gathered, Singer stopped making the 99 in the US before they stopped making it overseas, so all the later model 99's are "K" machines. By then they were exporting a lot more too, so finding European made machines started to be way more common than the older models.

slc 09-11-2013 04:29 PM

Thanks for clarifying.

Pwhite 08-17-2019 09:34 AM

Does this mean if the machine has a designation of 99- it was made in the USA?

Seb58 08-18-2019 12:07 AM

I think it does, yes.

OurWorkbench 08-18-2019 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by Pwhite (Post 8290524)
Does this mean if the machine has a designation of 99- it was made in the USA?

Yes. According to the early Singer catalogs the number before the hyphen or letter is the class of machine and the number after the hyphen or letter is the variety. I recently worked on a 15-91 that only had "15-" on the number plate.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

bkay 08-18-2019 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by OurWorkbench (Post 8290792)
Yes. According to the early Singer catalogs the number before the hyphen or letter is the class of machine and the number after the hyphen or letter is the variety. I recently worked on a 15-91 that only had "15-" on the number plate.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

Janey, I don't understand what you are saying. What are you calling the number plate? I don't think my two 15-91's say that it's a 15 anywhere (that I know of). One has a serial number that starts with JC, which isn't listed anywhere. It was made in Canada (says so on the machine). The other is an AH number.

Explain what you're talking about, please.

Bkay

Dressmaker 08-18-2019 10:58 AM

[h=1][/h][h=1][/h][h=1][/h]What is the difference between a Singer 99, 99k and a Singer Spartan?
Here is a youtube video that answers that question.
https://youtu.be/kml11Lznh9I

OurWorkbench 08-18-2019 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bkay (Post 8290831)
Janey, I don't understand what you are saying. What are you calling the number plate? I don't think my two 15-91's say that it's a 15 anywhere (that I know of). One has a serial number that starts with JC, which isn't listed anywhere. It was made in Canada (says so on the machine). The other is an AH number.

Explain what you're talking about, please.

Bkay

I think that Singer put a number plate on some of the industrial machines before they did it on domestic machines. I don't know when they started on domestic machines. I think I have seen some 99-13s but not positive. The 1954ish 15 that I have (yes made in USA) has it on the pillar as shown by the lavender arrow.

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https://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollec...es/image13.htm tells about the number plate from Elizabethport 1908 catalog
and https://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollec...ges/image5.htm tells about the number plate from Kilbowie 1907 catalog



Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

bkay 08-19-2019 10:24 AM

Thanks, Janey.

BKay

leonf 08-19-2019 12:16 PM

Not fond of videos that give me a minute long musical introduction. I enjoy Scottish music, but I can pick my own.
I konw Spartans have a different number, but I've forgotten what it is.

WIChix 08-20-2019 03:36 AM

Spartans are a 192.

leonf 08-20-2019 05:56 AM

Thanks. Maybe someday I'll remember.

Mickey2 08-20-2019 12:23 PM

The machine is identical, but not everting is identical. There is a bit of difference to the casing, the UK made versions have extention tables both on the suit case type as well as bend wood cases. Many US made machines doens't have them. The uke made 185K (much the same machine) usually come pale wood bases with extention table. I haven't seen any US made with this base. There are som rare exceptions to the 99 cases, where the extension table double as a tool and accessory box, stained lacquered wood.

SewXwhat 04-09-2020 04:38 AM

Grease for motor?
 
I have a 99K, and wondering about how to grease this motor. I can’t find an online adjuster‘s manual for this wonderful machine, or find that it’s clearly apparent what to do by looking at the motor. Please help. Thank you.

OurWorkbench 04-09-2020 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by SewXwhat (Post 8376221)
I have a 99K, and wondering about how to grease this motor. I can’t find an online adjuster‘s manual for this wonderful machine, or find that it’s clearly apparent what to do by looking at the motor. Please help. Thank you.

There is a manual for the 99-13 that can be found on singer.com https://res.cloudinary.com/singer-se...ng_Machine.pdf
On page 12 of that manual, it shows where to grease the motor. Also do not use modern Singer lubricant. It is a different formula and not meant for older machines.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.
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leonf 04-09-2020 06:17 AM

I used my 99s mainly for handcranking. I suspect their might be oil or grease for the motors depending on the era.

Spartans also have a cutout in the far right corner of the bed for an electrical cord to come through. And no lamps.



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