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chickadeee55 10-28-2013 12:42 PM

Singer lube
 
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Just opened a new tube of Singer lube and it looks & smells totally different. It has a strong petroleum smell and also has a gritty feel. Any one else seen this? I am going to open a new tube when I get home tonight.


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nanna-up-north 10-28-2013 04:32 PM

Oh my, that does look different. There has been a lot of discussion here about singer lube. I've read about not being able to buy it in the US anymore, there seems to be a blue tube that is still available in Canada, and Joe says the white lube is only for plastic machines.

I have 2 tubes of vintage lube..... green tube. Both tubes look exactly alike on the outside. But, one tube has a yellowish oily lube and the other one is more white. .... so I don't know what the answer is. And, I'll be watching once again to see what the experts say.

J Miller 10-28-2013 05:41 PM

That looks like what comes out of some of the tubes I've got. I don't know any more what to say about the Singer Lube. My personal opinion based on some of what I have read, is that the white colored grease is not for the motors, but for the gears.
The brown or amber colored grease should be for the motors. I wouldn't worry too much about the color from one tube to the other as it's probably been made by a zillion manufacturers over the years.

That's just my opinion and I won't swear it's right. All I know is I use the non white stuff no mater it's age in my Singer motors.

Joe

ArchaicArcane 10-29-2013 07:58 AM

I haven't seen the Blue tube here. The one my supplier can get is the pink and red one. The lube I get looks the same as in the photo, but it's not gritty. The grittiness is what concerns me here.

I do as Joe says, non-white in the motor... with one exception. If it reeks, I chuck it out. There've been a few tubes that were either hard / chunky, or stunk like you wouldn't believe, and I didn't think I could co-exist with them.

chickadeee55 10-29-2013 09:32 AM

Thanks for the replies. We have used many of the tubes that are red & white. The grease in these has a brown tint but has never been gritty when you rub some between finger & thumb. I opened another new tube and the same thing, almost feels like valve grinding paste and these tubes were sealed. If I used this stuff on the motor wicks, I don't think it would ever make it to motor bushing & shaft. I did find a full tube of the singer lube in the lead tubes and is nice opaque color. Either I got a bad batch or this is how one supplier made it for them. I will be finding a new brand & source for lube.............

ArchaicArcane 10-29-2013 10:00 AM

I was told by my supplier that the manufacturer they deal with said they were sourcing from somewhere else.

"This item was not reformulated; however, we were having issues with cold weather so we are now purchasing the product from a new source."

What cold weather means, I don't know, but this is all of the scoop I have on it. ;)

Perhaps your tubes froze somewhere in the supply chain? Is that what it would do if it froze? I have no idea.

J Miller 10-29-2013 11:43 AM

That would be an easy experiment. Find a tube, open it, check it, if it's smooth like it should be then freeze it. When it thaws check it out.

Joe

tenngal 10-30-2013 07:19 PM

Doesn't look like mine.

chickadeee55 10-30-2013 08:00 PM

My DH talked with a friend of his that owns a Janome & industrial machine dealership. They use (Super Lube) synthetic grease on all the vintage bushed motors & metal gear sets and has used it for several years with no issues. He said the Super-Lube never hardens and has never liquified to contaminate motor commutator & brushes. I already use this stuff on gears and will use it in our motors from now on. I ordered a dozen 1/2oz tubes. I suppose it would also work fine on plastic gears since it is not petroleum based, but you will have to do your own research to verify usage on plastic gears.

J Miller 10-31-2013 05:10 AM

Marilynn,

If you use that synthetic grease your Singer motors will not be getting lubed. They are designed to use a grease that softens and flows. Since the synthetic grease does not do that it will not flow down the wick and get to the bearings.

It might work for a while if you put it directly on the bearings, but eventually even synthetic grease gives up and you'll either have to tear down the motors for a relube, or buy new new motors.

For gears it's not a problem so long as the chemical make up of the grease does not degrade the plastic the gears are made from.

Joe


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