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heart of Dixie 07-30-2016 08:24 AM

Singer touch & sew
 
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I got a singer touch and sew and it sews beautiful. The problem I am having is winding the bobbin. I have attached pictures. The bobbin seems to loop on one side of the bobbin case. Doesn't wind evenly. Is there some type of adjustment I can make on this machine. Also when winding the bobbin the needle continues to go up and down. Don't they usually stop when you push the little white button to wind them. Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks Dixie

Tartan 07-30-2016 08:38 AM

My old T&S was a bit different. It had a little lever where your white button was to do the bobbin. When that lever was turned to the left, I filled the bobbin. Check the bobbin to see if the little nubs on the bobbin have a nice clean edge to drive the bobbin. I found when mine got worn,I had to gently press down on the little arm on top of the bobbin to keep it from skipping when it wound. I finally got rid of the machines because my bobbins were worn and at that time I couldn't find any new ones.
I am not sure but I think it had a little depression on the inside round of the hand wheel that I pressed to stop the needle action when it wound?

heart of Dixie 07-30-2016 08:50 AM

I have tried several different bobbins and it still does it. Most of them look like new. The hand wheel has no indention on it I tried that also. Most machines have a indention or a smaller wheel to turn, but not this one. Thanks maybe some one else has another suggestion.

KLO 07-30-2016 09:26 AM

According to this short youtube video, the needle does continue to go up and down when winding a bobbin. I was stunned when I saw this as I did not know there was such an "animal".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wXGk1A2Ssc

And here is another video with a close up of the bobbin winding in a Touch & Sew. The video is very herky jerky but I think you can see what is going on. Hope this helps some with your problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE84twglJBc

QuiltingVagabond 07-30-2016 10:23 AM

It's been a long time since I had a T&S but try taking the bobbin race - the part the bobbin fits into - out and clean out the lint that builds up in there.
The needle does go up and down while filling - and the needle is threaded as it winds the bobbin too. That was a big feature on the T&S machine.

heart of Dixie 07-30-2016 10:24 AM

Thanks so much for the information. It help to understand that the needle goes up and down, kinda unusual. Know I need to find out how to adjust the bobbin winder. I know how to wind the bobbin but it winds crooked. off to one side. How can this be adjusted. Many other Singer you just move a little bar but they wind off the hand wheel. This one winds in the machine. There has to be a way to adjust that

ManiacQuilter2 07-30-2016 11:40 AM

That one looks like the first sewing machine I got for graduation in 1970! I would take it in for servicing. Never had that problem before. I remember push down that white button and then it would wind the bobbin.

annievee 07-30-2016 03:42 PM

You might try taking bobbin apart and screw them together again. Do not screw the bobbins too tight. I have a T&S that I love and use almost daily--I check my bobbins every time before I try to load them with thread. My needle does not go up and down when loading bobbin--not sure why yours does-just try to press that white button to one side. Mine has a white lever that is pushed to one side when winding bobbins. Best to have needle position in center while filling bobbin. Try a search for Touch n Sew here--I believe there is a group of owners on this board . Hope this helps.

SingerCLA 07-30-2016 03:44 PM

Singer Touch & Sew do not wind a neat bobbin, with the needle and take up arm going up & down makes for uneven thread tension to the bobbin. ...but I've never seen one as bad as your white thread.
A few things to check and try.
-run it slow, and watch that the bobbin spins evenly and doesn't stop/catch.
-make sure the presser foot is up.
-the white thread looks thick; try a larger needle. Extra drag/tension in the needle eye could cause the problem too.

granny64 07-31-2016 06:27 AM

This was my first sewing machine. I wore it out. Has plastic gears. Why don't you try winding your bobbin on another machine. I do that with my mom's old Singer 201. The bobbin winder on it doesn't work anymore.

SingerCLA 07-31-2016 09:41 AM

Unfortunately, the T&S bobbin does not have a hole in the middle to mount on a spindle.

Tartan 07-31-2016 10:12 AM

When I wanted to keep using my machine with the bad bobbins, I held the bobbin with my finger nails on the small size and wound them by hand. A pain in the patootie but it was the only machine I had at the time. Not a long term solution but it might hold you until you can find a solution.

cjr 07-31-2016 11:52 AM

I have used a touch & sew for 40 years - my daily go to machine. Two things - Bobbin has 2 indents that must fit in bobbin case. Also do not over fill do not go past last white circle. Before you wind next bobbin make sure machine is oiled & cleaned. Mine does not like any lint thread etc in area. Use a pipe cleaner to get all lint out before winding. Also rethread. That is the simplist thing, it sounds to simple but often works. Good luck I love mine.

mjhaess 07-31-2016 02:48 PM

I would use a bobbin winder. You can buy them at JoAnns.

heart of Dixie 07-31-2016 05:14 PM

Because of the way the bobbins are made you can't wind them on another machine unless it was another touch and sew. The top of the bobbin is wider than the botton

heart of Dixie 07-31-2016 05:15 PM

It doesn't have a hole in the middle of it plus the top is wider than the bottom

SingerCLA 08-02-2016 09:50 AM

This problem should not be too tough to sort out. The critical adjustment is the spindle lift height; it must be high enough to spin the bobbin for winding and drop low enough to allow the top thread loop to pass without catching when sewing.(this latter is very important...)

I tried a heavy thread (in T&S 756) and too small a needle (#10/70) and still it wound fine.

I'm thinking the thread cutter is not cutting the tail on your machine. When you start the bobbin wind do the first loop by hand and make sure the tail you are holding breaks free after the first rotation and you remove it.
I was able to get a bobbin nest like yours if the tail did not cut off properly.
Check the cutter and make sure it is clean and sharp; not stopped up with thread or lint.

bkay 08-03-2016 06:11 AM

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Check to see if the metal part where you put the bobbin is secure (not loose). There's a little screw on it that may need tightening. The other thing is to wind the end of your thread around the screw that holds on your presser foot. I found the page online.

I don't have any problems with it, so can't help more than that.

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quiltedsunshine 08-03-2016 07:36 PM

You could try re-threading to make sure the thread is in the tension properly. The thread looks like it isn't getting any tension. On other machines there's a separate tensioner for the bobbin winder. But this one gets its tension from the upper tension.


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