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Rocketeer 04-19-2020 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by manicmike (Post 7181268)
Tate, I was just wondering if you're sewing with cross wound thread mounted on the vertical spool pin. I've found that cross wound thread massively twists if I don't use a thread stand (where thread is fed vertically) and this is bound to contribute to tangled thread. If I use a cross wound thread on a vertical spool pin the thread twists a lot.
As a simple thread stand, I use a paper spike angled toward the normal spool pin, which it turns around and goes on its normal merry way.
Thought it better if I illustrated my solution with a picture of it.
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1 is the weight the spike sits on to make the angle. It's pointing almost directly at the spool pin so there's no chance of it being pulled over. If it falls over, the angle is wrong.
2 shows the thread path around the existing spool pin.

OK, it's incredibly simple but I'm a simple man :-)
It works well with smaller spools too, but seeing as I don't like running out of thread I chose this one.

The difference this makes is obvious after winding a bobbin with and without.
The reason I started doing this was that I'd wind a bobbin and when I cut the end, the thread untwisted itself (and I mean a lot of untwisting). Poor thing had almost tied itself in knots just winding a bobbin. When using a 'stand' this doesn't happen at all.
Twisted thread in the bobbin must be a bad thing, and yes I'm too tight to buy a proper thread stand.

All of my 'period' spools of thread are wound straight, rather than cross wound, cross winding thread seems to be a more recent thing and today is the norm, which I imagine is why you only see newer machines with the spools that lie down and have those little caps to hold them on.
There's a simple explanation of this at http://www.heirloomcreations.net/sew...tacked-thread/

Just my two cents, but worked for me: I look at the thread I'm using and use the appropriate delivery method.



I'm just finding that the Gutermann cross-wound thread I'm currently using twists massively after several stitches when sitting on my 500's spool pins. What is causing this? I think it's 100% of my problem... I've tried having it feed off the top or bottom of the spool (depending on orientation) hoping that would mitigate the twisting, but doesn't seem to...

Matt

bkay 09-16-2021 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by Jessicaimmor (Post 8507982)
The specialist knows everything about a little and nothing about everything else.

Wow! That was ugly.
People come here with sewing machine problems and questions. People who really like sewing machines gain knowledge over time. They/We share when we know something about a particular problem. We also ask for help and usually get it graciously. You're not obligated to read or to comment on anything.
bkay

Rebaquilts 09-16-2021 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by bkay (Post 8508067)
Wow! That was ugly.

It appears it may be a spam post? I looked up the member's posts and they may have been hijacked by a bot or virus. I agree that first re-thread, next new needle, always use high quality thread ( some leave less lint than others) on a thread post holder to prevent issues with the bobbin case, and check for fuzzies in the discs--if you know how to disassemble the thread tension assembly, check the smoothness of the discs. If there is ANY catch--not butter smooth, you can use a super fine wet sandpaper to make them slick. And like BKay says, we appreciate the wisdom. I'll try the new thread path next time I pull out the 401 just to see.

FoggyButFocused 09-18-2021 04:26 PM

I have a Singer 401A. Great machine.I had this issue a few months back. I found two issues. First, the thread was snagging on the bottom of the spool. There was a small nick which was catching. I flipped the spool upside-down and it worked. Second, there is something with that bobbin. I tried reloading the bobbin, same problem. I tried a new bobbin and voila! Fixed. I don't use that bobbin any more.

I think every machine has a different personality. I hope you find what makes your machine sing!



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