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Windblown 10-24-2013 01:28 PM

What brand of machine is this?
 
I have been looking on SGW and found this, I'm hoping that someone can help me identify it, so I can make a bid decision.
http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem...temID=14533007
I can't remember how to make the picture open up..

Sheluma 10-24-2013 04:06 PM

I think it might be frister and rossmann. google that and see if you find similar ones. I was looking at one online a while back. They may take an unusual needle that is gettable but pricey. (Not sure if I'm remembering correctly)

Sheluma 10-24-2013 04:10 PM

It looks like this one:
http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/fuo/4102829835.html

Edit: From what I recall it uses the same needle as the singer model 12.

http://www.sewalot.com/frister_rossmann.htm

Windblown 10-24-2013 06:16 PM

Sheluma, I think you are correct it is a Frister&Rossman. When I look at that needle I can't figure out just that is going on there.
Thank you,
Windblown

SteveH 10-25-2013 07:21 AM

That is a TS or transverse shuttle machine. In my opinion, they are better than VS or Vibrating Shuttle Machines.

Looks like a F&R but it could also be a Gritzner, or Anker, or.... These German imports were kind of like the Japanese Singer imports of the 1950's in that they are Singer 12 clones but done in High Arm format. Many were better than the original Singers that they were cloning.. (sound familiar, Singer never learns)

You should get that. Because if you do not I just might!!! hehehe Go for it!

Sheluma 10-25-2013 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by SteveH (Post 6367608)
That is a TS or transverse shuttle machine. In my opinion, they are better than VS or Vibrating Shuttle Machines.

Looks like a F&R but it could also be a Gritzner, or Anker, or.... These German imports were kind of like the Japanese Singer imports of the 1950's in that they are Singer 12 clones but done in High Arm format. Many were better than the original Singers that they were cloning.. (sound familiar, Singer never learns)

You should get that. Because if you do not I just might!!! hehehe Go for it!

I was *wondering* if the model 12 was cloned by a bunch of makers -- I think I read that somewhere (maybe Alex's page?) and then forgot! But the layout and design of the MOP inlay seems identical to the F&R on CL.

Steve, do you think that the Japanese 15 clones are better than the Singer 15?

SteveH 10-25-2013 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by Sheluma (Post 6368333)
Steve, do you think that the Japanese 15 clones are better than the Singer 15?


I am SO not qualified to enter an opinion on the electric machines.... Sorry.

Windblown 10-25-2013 04:20 PM

Steve, I usually stick with Singers but some how this one seems to call to me. Plus I love MOP

Sheluma 10-25-2013 06:07 PM

Here's another one. This one says "VERBETERD SINGER" which translates to "improved Singer". There is a name on the arm but I can't make it out ???MANN? That's the first word so it doesn't look like F&R, but I don't know. I think I remember reading that Singer successfully sued all these clone-makers.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-ANTIQUE...p2047675.l2557


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