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miriam 05-20-2012 05:41 AM

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In front of a more full size Vindex Special, is another little 3/4 machine that followed me home:
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irishrose 05-20-2012 01:37 PM

But, miriam, you said my Leader by National couldn't be 3/4 size no matter how tiny she is because she has a nice work area to the side of the needle which makes the bed longer - now you have her twin, though mine has lived a more protected life, obviously. :o

miriam 05-20-2012 01:41 PM

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"But, miriam, you said my Leader by National couldn't be 3/4 size no matter how tiny she is because she has a nice work area to the side of the needle which makes the bed longer - now you have her twin, though mine has lived a more protected life, obviously."

blows my mind!!!
I wonder if it had a crank knob stuck on that wheel?
[ATTACH=CONFIG]336680[/ATTACH]

quiltsRfun 05-20-2012 02:22 PM

Nice collection. I've never seen any like the green and tan Singers.

miriam 05-20-2012 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by quiltsRfun (Post 5230666)
Nice collection. I've never seen any like the green and tan Singers.

Those are tough little beasts. Heavy so they don't dance all over the place - built about like a Singer 99 inside. I've seen them on CL around here for about $65.

Silver Needle 05-21-2012 04:11 AM

What a great collection. Do you like treadles also or just the 3/4?

miriam 05-21-2012 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by Silver Needle (Post 5231720)
What a great collection. Do you like treadles also or just the 3/4?

I like all kinds of old sewing machine! I just happen to have a bunch of those little machines right now so I though I would feature them. I loved sewing on my little Spartan until I gave it to my GD - she LOVES that machine.

barri1 05-21-2012 04:54 PM

I love reading about you guys, and your love of the old machines.. Had a rough day, but you guys are way too funny.. I am terrified to take apart my machines.. It's a real fear.. I have a Singer 99 that really should be rewired.. Why the fear? I wanted to change the bobbin winder assembly with another that I bought on Ebay.. The tiny pin on mine was broken off before I got it.. The one I got on Ebay is a krinkle finish, and mine isn't.. I took mine apart, and of course the spring sprang.. I paniced, and decided not to mess with the other.. So.. I have a mismatched assmebly, and it just gives it character.. I think I will still change the wires on the 99.. She is very pretty, and capable..

miriam 05-21-2012 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by barri1 (Post 5233544)
I love reading about you guys, and your love of the old machines.. Had a rough day, but you guys are way too funny.. I am terrified to take apart my machines.. It's a real fear.. I have a Singer 99 that really should be rewired.. Why the fear? I wanted to change the bobbin winder assembly with another that I bought on Ebay.. The tiny pin on mine was broken off before I got it.. The one I got on Ebay is a krinkle finish, and mine isn't.. I took mine apart, and of course the spring sprang.. I paniced, and decided not to mess with the other.. So.. I have a mismatched assmebly, and it just gives it character.. I think I will still change the wires on the 99.. She is very pretty, and capable..

ON those you just order the motor, wires and foot pedal from sew-classic and it is one screw. Nothing springs out at you.

greywuuf 05-21-2012 05:58 PM

Barri1:
Sorry to here you had trouble with your first repair. I have a series of pictures about the other style bobbin winder (long bobbin, shuttle type) and I am on vacation currently.....bit if you like I can put together a little photo essay on your bobbin winder when I get home. We should be able to help you get her back to all shiny black as intended. Good to hear she is still working for you though.
Dan.

miriam 05-22-2012 02:37 AM


Originally Posted by greywuuf (Post 5233738)
Barri1:
Sorry to here you had trouble with your first repair. I have a series of pictures about the other style bobbin winder (long bobbin, shuttle type) and I am on vacation currently.....bit if you like I can put together a little photo essay on your bobbin winder when I get home. We should be able to help you get her back to all shiny black as intended. Good to hear she is still working for you though.
Dan.

Muv has a wonderful tutorial on winding the bobbin then putting it in the shuttle and making it sew. It is in the sticky links but in case you can't find it, here is a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4PhA..._order&list=UL and here is the link to the sticky http://www.quiltingboard.com/vintage...v-t167789.html enjoy.

cabbagepatchkid 05-22-2012 03:46 AM


Originally Posted by barri1 (Post 5233544)
I wanted to change the bobbin winder assembly with another that I bought on Ebay.. I took mine apart, and of course the spring sprang.. I paniced, and decided not to mess with the other..

Maybe this will help you. Just scroll down until you find your particular bobbin winder:
http://www.tfsr.org/pub/technical_in...bin_winder.pdf

I'm working on a 66 that has a frozen part so I thought that I would exchange it for a bobbin winder on one of my other machines but it seems that every bobbin winder that I tried had at least one part that was frozen. I'm to the point that I might buy one of those 'side-winder' bobbin winders so that I can use my machine without a bobbin winder.

deplaylady 05-22-2012 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by miriam (Post 5126828)
I totally forgot what this one is. I think it is a Singer 128. It is in very good shape - some wear on some decals. Clean up was a breeze. This one turns like nobody's business. It will for sure be a great little hand crank machine soon. [ATTACH=CONFIG]326382[/ATTACH]

I have that same 128 - I turned it into a hand crank. The pattern is La Vincendora. I love it - turns beautifully and runs so smooth!

miriam 05-22-2012 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by deplaylady (Post 5234893)
I have that same 128 - I turned it into a hand crank. The pattern is La Vincendora. I love it - turns beautifully and runs so smooth!

I did that with mine too! It was used as a play prop for Fiddler on the Roof.

conniety 05-22-2012 10:13 PM

Please feel free to add your 3/4 size or smaller sewing machine pictures - I love looking and I love to hear the stories!

masufa 06-08-2012 11:10 AM

I just picked up my first 99K machine and it came without a base I read somewhere that they have to be in a base to operate is the true?

miriam 06-08-2012 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by masufa (Post 5274470)
I just picked up my first 99K machine and it came without a base I read somewhere that they have to be in a base to operate is the true?

They do work best in a base or a cabinet - turns a lot better with the bobbin thing off the table and they only have 3 legs so are a bit wobbly.

craftiladi 10-22-2012 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by MaryLane (Post 5128877)
I have a 1950s Singer 99K that was a mess when I got her. I bought her because of her attachments and thought I would use the rest of her for parts. My husband had other ideas. Her case was totally shot. He is a maintenance man by trade and a woodworker for fun. He rewired her one evening while I was at work. We bought a new throat plate for her. And, he made a new base for her.

http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/a...36IMAG0117.jpg

The dark line you see half way back on the new base surface is a piece of inlaid walnut to make a pin stripe. He also thought it needed drawers.

http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/a...36IMAG0120.jpg

I know it isn't practical for carrying around but it sure is pretty to see. He did make the base longer on the left because he likes how my FW and 301 have that work area and thought this one should, too.

Hope you enjoyed seeing her as much as I enjoy looking at her.

Mary

Oh Mary not sure if you are still a member i am catching up on all the vintage messages as I too have caught the vintage bug-you Hubby did a awesome job, very,very nice.

craftiladi 10-22-2012 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by miriam (Post 5234146)
Muv has a wonderful tutorial on winding the bobbin then putting it in the shuttle and making it sew. It is in the sticky links but in case you can't find it, here is a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4PhA..._order&list=UL and here is the link to the sticky http://www.quiltingboard.com/vintage...v-t167789.html enjoy.

Huge thank-you for providing all the great advise and u-tubes videos. I am learning so much.

miriam 10-22-2012 02:33 PM

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somebody know what this little long bobbin machine is called? I stuck a hand crank on it - works very smooth and quiet. [ATTACH=CONFIG]371741[/ATTACH]

pumpkinpatchquilter 10-22-2012 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by miriam (Post 5126819)
Do feel free to add a picture of you 3/4 size old lady.
The next is a couple of 185 machines. The tan one is in exceptionally good condition and the green one is in exceptionally bad condition. My sister sent these to me a couple weeks ago. She worked very hard on the green one but never got the missing tension on it. [ATTACH=CONFIG]326377[/ATTACH]

One of these popped up on CL in great shape for $20 but too far for me to pick up - now it's on the list. You sewing machine people are terrible for my budget... ;) SO cute.

miriam 10-23-2012 02:10 AM

I have yet to see one in great shape that works right. Most people with one that looks great have neglected something or they would still be using it... I just fixed one with a tension someone took apart and reassembled with the disks spooned. I've seen the tension spring pulled around to the wrong side of the tension. I've seen very linty bobbin areas. You name it - those machines that 'look' good might have something you will need to fix... I love it - it is part of the puzzle.

quiltingweb 10-23-2012 06:06 AM

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[ATTACH=CONFIG]371881[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]371882[/ATTACH]I call them the twins.

nygal 10-23-2012 06:25 AM

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[ATTACH=CONFIG]371885[/ATTACH]Here is my one and only vintage machine ...so far. It's a Singer 99.

miriam 10-23-2012 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by nygal (Post 5606232)
[ATTACH=CONFIG]371885[/ATTACH]Here is my one and only vintage machine ...so far. It's a Singer 99.

If I only had one vintage machine - that might be it... BTW what is it setting in?

craftiladi 10-24-2012 04:41 AM

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Lovely machines Everyone.....Here is my lil lady I am trying to turn into a hand crank. I have already removed her motor, there are two holes left under her spoked wheel.

Mizkaki 10-24-2012 07:19 PM

Dee,

To the best of my knowledge there is no handcrank available for the National made machines unless it comes from an old donor machine. The currently available after market handcranks are fitted to a machine by being positioned on the 'motor boss' that is under the handwheel. The Nationals do not have this style motorboss as a part of their casting.

Cathy



Originally Posted by craftiladi (Post 5608323)
Lovely machines Everyone.....Here is my lil lady I am trying to turn into a hand crank. I have already removed her motor, there are two holes left under her spoked wheel.


BoJangles 10-25-2012 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by craftiladi (Post 5608323)
Lovely machines Everyone.....Here is my lil lady I am trying to turn into a hand crank. I have already removed her motor, there are two holes left under her spoked wheel.

Dee, what a nice looking machine!

Nancy

BoJangles 10-25-2012 05:04 AM


Originally Posted by miriam (Post 5604724)
somebody know what this little long bobbin machine is called? I stuck a hand crank on it - works very smooth and quiet. [ATTACH=CONFIG]371741[/ATTACH]

Miriam, that is a model 128, probably from the 1940's/50's. I don't think the early 128/28's had the godzilla finish. The earlier 128's/28's were usually the La Vincendora decals.

Everyone has some really cute little 3/4 sized machines. I love the wooden case with the drawers on either end Mary's husband made! Mary can I copy that idea! I need to make a case for a Spartan - at least I will ask hubby to make it!

Nancy

craftiladi 10-25-2012 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by Mizkaki (Post 5610328)
Dee,

To the best of my knowledge there is no handcrank available for the National made machines unless it comes from an old donor machine. The currently available after market handcranks are fitted to a machine by being positioned on the 'motor boss' that is under the handwheel. The Nationals do not have this style motorboss as a part of their casting.

Cathy

Cathy I was afraid you were going to say that, if I were to bore another hole could I make it work?

miriam 10-25-2012 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by craftiladi (Post 5612207)
Cathy I was afraid you were going to say that, if I were to bore another hole could I make it work?

NO - the machine is at an angle and the HC has to go straight - You have to get it tight enough to not flop around and mar the machine.

Mizkaki 10-25-2012 08:35 PM

Dee,

There are a number of things that have to match up to make this work. The center of the HC must line up with the main shaft (if the handwheel is in alignment with this shaft). The HC body must be far enough away from the handwheel so as to not rub it. The handwheel must have spokes or be notched to take the finger of the HC. The usual method of securing the HC to the body of the machine is to bolt through the motor boss, with the ridges of the boss keeping the HC from twisting side to side (and it will twist if not secure). There are probably a few other things that I not thinking of right now.
Having said all of that, if an adaptor was made to bolt securely to the machine body and the HC was secured to the adaptor, and the spacing from HC to handwheel was proper (possibly adjustable with the adaptor thickness), then it may work.
I once saw a setup like I described done to allow a class 31 Singer be handcranked. Why someone wanted to do that I don't know, but it did work.

Cathy





Originally Posted by craftiladi (Post 5612207)
Cathy I was afraid you were going to say that, if I were to bore another hole could I make it work?


miriam 10-26-2012 12:35 AM

Those Class 31 Singers should turn nice & easy on a HC or a treadle. There was a lady at Ray White's class made a free standing hand crank out of a knife sharpener crank. She added some wood and a peg to make it work on any spoked wheel sewing machine. The height was adjustable. You may be able to attach something like that to the base your machine is setting in.

Mizkaki 10-26-2012 08:03 AM

Miriam,

Was that knife sharpener HC geared so that you turned it clockwise and it turned the handwheel counterclockwise?

cathy



Originally Posted by miriam (Post 5612943)
Those Class 31 Singers should turn nice & easy on a HC or a treadle. There was a lady at Ray White's class made a free standing hand crank out of a knife sharpener crank. She added some wood and a peg to make it work on any spoked wheel sewing machine. The height was adjustable. You may be able to attach something like that to the base your machine is setting in.


miriam 10-26-2012 08:13 AM

I think it might have been. She had a really cool rig. She bought the knife sharpener and then build something for it to go on. I think if you mounted it on an adjustable frame it would be even better.

Claudiak2 11-03-2012 03:28 PM

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Hi Miriam, I'm sowing my 3/4 size New Home Ideal machine. It's a 1928 No 3. I'm sure the 3 stands for 3/4's size machine.[ATTACH=CONFIG]374187[/ATTACH]

miriam 11-03-2012 03:44 PM

AWE cute. I picked up a 3/4 size Minnesota not too long ago - looks much the same. I haven't had time to test it out. It looks like they could be cousins.

miriam 12-08-2012 04:08 AM

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you can almost see the balance wheel - I made a little cover - I had a piece of quilted fabric and an embroidered doily for a pocket and some ribbon around the edges and for ties... It is covering a little Singer Spartan.
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miriam 03-25-2013 11:08 AM

I have to tell one on Cinderella. Someone came to my shop to buy a machine and saw my Cinderella machine. They wanted to know how much I wanted. I told them I would have to ask my DGD if it could sell it or not. So I called and asked DD to ask Miss L if it was ok if I sold Cinderella. There was a very short pause and I heard her say, "To me???" So Cinderella is waiting for DDs permission to let Miss L have Cinderella. In the mean time Miss L visits Cinderella every time she stops by... Actually she is making sure Cinderella is still there....

Vridar 03-31-2013 09:46 AM

I'm new to QB and loving the antique stories and pictures. Recently, I've joined the ranks of sewing machine collectors. My first, a converted OEM hand crank 128, got me hooked. Study convinced me I needed a 201, a 15, 66, and 99. I've found them, and others, much to my bank account's demise. Actually, they are not the major investment, shipping is the major cost for us rural collectors. Believe me or not, my 201 cost 29.95 and only required reversing the needle. My 15 cost $0.99 plus much more shipping and handling then required and a heated discussion with the seller. The 15 only required a male electrical plug. Of course, I've oiled, adjusted and enjoyed each until the next acquire. I have a 128 lever in nice bee-hive case looking for new wires. I've tried it out and not much will be required, however, like the seller posted, "It looks dangerous." We'll fix that. Anyway, thanks for the postings, I am really enjoying them. - Ron


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