Redeye that won't budge

Old 08-06-2012, 04:21 AM
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Just curious............what do you mean by the term 'red eye'?
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Old 08-06-2012, 04:39 AM
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Red Eye is just the type of design/decals on the machine.
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Old 08-06-2012, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Ioftheneedle View Post
Just curious............what do you mean by the term 'red eye'?
"Red Eye" is the nick name given to this decal design on the Singer Model 66 machines:

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Old 08-06-2012, 05:07 AM
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I agree with Miriam! If you do go with kerosene, make sure not to get it on the exterior of the machine! It will eat decals!
It didn't hurt my lotus decals, in fact it revealed some that were completely covered over with grime...I think it probably was close to a coal furnace? Billy in "vintage machines" on the board recommends soaking the whole machine in a tub of kerosene, didn't have anything big enough. it works great now and I really dosed the poor thing with kerosene LOL
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thought I would show a picture of lotus after being soaked in kerosene, decals on top were completely under a black oily substance that literally had to be scubbed off...it is gorgeous now

the lotus on the left side of the "singer" was completely hidden...it was alot of work but worth it...she gets used now
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:11 AM
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Kerosene is basically a light fuel oil. It is not a solvent per sea but will clean away other dried oils and residue rather quickly.
I used it to clean the 100 years of varnished oil off the bottom of my Minnesota A and to give my rusted up 99K his final flush out bath before reassembly.
Neither machine's finish was damaged. I did not leave the kerosene on the finish any longer than necessary and I didn't completely immerse the machine in it.

I have also used Hoppe's #9 gun cleaning solvent to clean really badly gunked up parts and there was no finish damage. Hoppe's #9 uses kerosene as a base with a few other ingredients added.

I suspect that long time immersion in kerosene would not be good for decals, shellack or some paints, but a light cleaning shouldn't hurt. After all, it's oil, just not as refined as sewing machine oil.

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Old 08-11-2012, 04:39 AM
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I've read with interest the ways to loosen a seized machine and thought I'd share what I did. I had an inherited morse 200 completely seized, locked up tight. I read online to use a hair dryer and I turned the machine on the side, blew the hot air into the head and continued to "wiggle" and that did the trick! It's now been oiled, cleaned and runs great. I cleaned the exterior with Murphy's oil soap with no ill effects. It didn't have decals to worry about per se, but I didn't want to mar the beautiful blue finish it has.

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I bought the locked up Redeye 2 weeks ago, I've gotten everything to come lose by getting the rust out/off and oiling like heck. The only thing that doesn't move is the needle bar to sew (which this part is INSIDE the head of the machine)!! When I turn the wheel it won't move. I've taken everything else apart to clean & oil per Muv's instruction video, BTW, thanks so much Muv!

How do I get the guts out/exposed so I can get to it to break loose? I know that's all it needs, cause the foot lever wouldn't move either and I oiled & cleaned and kept oiling. Finally I pushed really hard on the top of it and it popped loose. Any HELP will be welcomed...
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Old 08-11-2012, 04:12 PM
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So, if I have an opportunity to get a 'red eye' in a cabinet - not sure if it is working - for fifty bucks, i should take it?

Is it just the decal that makes it special?

thanks!
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Old 08-11-2012, 05:56 PM
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Lara122,

If the machine is in good working order, and the cabinet is also in good condition $50.00 isn't too much. The more accessories and attachments that come with it the better.

The red eye model 66 is no different mechanically than any other model 66 of similar vintage. But it is a well liked design and it was only made up until 1927 I think. So although it's not super rare, it's not super common either.

I have two, both treadles. I'd gladly adopt another if it comes along.

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Old 08-12-2012, 05:17 AM
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Joe, you are such a smarticulous! ;0)

Being treadle only, is that practical to use to actually sew on? Would it be better to look for an electrified version? I do like the idea of being able to learn how to take care of it myself. My five or six year old kenmore from sears has begun to slip stitches occasionally. I use my seventies era Kenmore for piecing. I wouldn't know how in the world to 'work' on my plastic lightie!

I like the idea of having something so old and classic, but I would need to be able to *use* it. Clearly, our grandmothers did fine with a treadle, but . . . .

btw, the guy hasn't answered back about letting me come look at it.

I saw a red eye that seems to have sold for $650! of course, it looked deliciously perfect . . . . . lol!!

hmmm.
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