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Thread: Toy Singer (Model 20?) and another treasure find, but how to thread???

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    Toy Singer (Model 20?) and another treasure find, but how to thread???

    Took my hubby antique looking today, but I was the one who walked out with more "stuff." Now after oiling the toy machine, it really turns well, but I'm not sure how to thread it properly and what the needle size is supposed to be. The other treasure just made me smile...it is a music box...and plays "I Remember Yesterday, Yesterday." Will look neat in my sewing room. Any help about the toy Singer would be appreciated. No book or instructions with it. Thanks for looking. Name:  miniature toy machine 004.JPG
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    with a passion for quilting and vintage machines..Singers: 99, 4 featherweights, Redeye 66, Lotus 66, Phoenix 27, 15-91, 301A
    Colleen S.

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    Don't know anythinit about it, but they both are pretty. Thanks for sharing.

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    The one on the left looks like a salesman's sampler. I have one and enjoy it so much.

    delma

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    Great finds!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by delma_paulk View Post
    The one on the left looks like a salesman's sampler. I have one and enjoy it so much.

    delma
    So do you have an instruction book or any information about it? Does it sew??? There are numbered points to thread the tread that is embossed on the metal, but I'm not sure how to put it through the tension disks and if it threads left to right or right to left.
    with a passion for quilting and vintage machines..Singers: 99, 4 featherweights, Redeye 66, Lotus 66, Phoenix 27, 15-91, 301A
    Colleen S.

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    Sorry, I don't have an answer for you but love the little machines!

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    Those are two precious finds. Would love to have both of them in my sewing room too. The toy is so small it makes the spool of thread look like a roll of toilet paper.
    Kitsy

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    I was looking around and found this on ebay - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-1914...80885771034%26

    If you scroll down and look at the picture on the box you can get an idea how it is threaded. The Singer website may be of help too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delma_paulk View Post
    The one on the left looks like a salesman's sampler. I have one and enjoy it so much.
    delma
    These are NOT salesman's samples...

    The Singer Model 20 is a toy meant for young children. It makes a fully functional chain stitch. It was available in handcrank and electric versions.

    PM me for a copy of the manual.

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    here is a direct link to singerco manual
    http://www.singerco.com/uploads/down...f20e75d0f3.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveH View Post
    here is a direct link to singerco manual
    http://www.singerco.com/uploads/down...f20e75d0f3.pdf
    Whoo Hooo, got it, printed it, and she sews...Thanks SO MUCH, Steve H....this was just what I needed. Gotta love the quick responses for help we get on this board.
    with a passion for quilting and vintage machines..Singers: 99, 4 featherweights, Redeye 66, Lotus 66, Phoenix 27, 15-91, 301A
    Colleen S.

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    Cool! Glad to help. I have one of the 7 spoke handcranked ones and I traded my 20-10 (electric version) to Cathy (Mizkaki) for a Frister & Rossmann TS handcrank.

    If you like the chainstitch I would strongly recommend that you check out a Willcox & Gibbs Automatic. I just got my 1879 treadle version up and sewing and boy howdy! they are not kidding when they call it the "noiseless" machine.

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    Cool! Glad to help. I have one of the 7 spoke handcranked ones and I traded my 20-10 (electric version) to Cathy (Mizkaki) for a Frister & Rossmann TS handcrank.

    If you like the chainstitch I would strongly recommend that you check out a Willcox & Gibbs Automatic. I just got my 1879 treadle version up and sewing and boy howdy! they are not kidding when they call it the "noiseless" machine.

    csharp: I have never seen one with a black handwheel, can you tell if it is a repaint or of this one was made that way?

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    Steve H....After checking the ones on ebay and other places, I too noticed that it is different with the black handwheel. I've looked closely at it and it seems to be very much original, so don't know what's up with that. No way to reference a date of manufacture that I know of. The needle seems to be original, and replacements seem costly on ebay, do you know if they would be available easily or since I'm mostly just displaying it to leave that issue alone? Thanks for your help.
    with a passion for quilting and vintage machines..Singers: 99, 4 featherweights, Redeye 66, Lotus 66, Phoenix 27, 15-91, 301A
    Colleen S.

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    My 20 also has the plain black handwheel...the manual copyright is 1953, which really doesn't tell you anything other than it was made after that...
    One day, you'll only be a memory for some people. Do your best to be a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveH View Post
    here is a direct link to singerco manual
    http://www.singerco.com/uploads/down...f20e75d0f3.pdf
    Thanks SteveH , I pm'd you then went back and saw this so again Thank You! Vickie
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    I have one the same sitting on my kitchen counter in my Florida place but no manual. I threaded it knowing Singers . It sews so I play with it when I get put on hold when on the phone so that I don't get frustrated while
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    I do not have the clamp either. Think I should print out he manual while I have a chance.
    Oh, see the first poster is also in Southwest Florida .
    Last edited by Mornigstar; 05-17-2013 at 06:11 PM.

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