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    vintagemotif,

    Thanks for the video. I watched most of it last night. She answered my questions about the belt in the first minute or so of the video. At over 9 minutes it took well over an hour to download maybe 3/4th of it. I watched about that much then clicked off.

    I don't think I'd go for a metal belt unless I could get one for cheep. I can see it would come in handy for a "one size fits all" treadle base. One base with a belt that would stretch and contract for use on a variety of machines.
    Leather doesn't work too good for that.
    But I'd still be concerned about excessive wear on the drive wheel and hand wheel.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    vintagemotif,

    Thanks for the video. I watched most of it last night. She answered my questions about the belt in the first minute or so of the video. At over 9 minutes it took well over an hour to download maybe 3/4th of it. I watched about that much then clicked off.

    I don't think I'd go for a metal belt unless I could get one for cheep. I can see it would come in handy for a "one size fits all" treadle base. One base with a belt that would stretch and contract for use on a variety of machines.
    Leather doesn't work too good for that.
    But I'd still be concerned about excessive wear on the drive wheel and hand wheel.

    Joe
    I have to agree with Joe on this issue. I'd never put a metal belt on any of my treadles - they were not intended to be used with a metal belt. They have survived a hundred years, but I am not so sure putting a metal belt on them would give them another hundred years. I will stick to the leather belts they were intended to use. I also think the aquarium tubing would be a good choice, but all my treadles have regular leather treadle belts. I am too much of a traditionalist I guess, but I feel we should put on those old machines things that were intended to be used on them. I just don't like the idea of metal - for the noise, or the wear and tear on the machine hand wheel or treadle wheel.

    Nancy

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    On a fun note, I got my 31-15, and 31-20, both working last night. Geeze, are those powerful machines! They almost scare me! The 31-15 has to be hand cranked, as it does not have a treadle. Cathy can I put a hand crank on the 31-15? The wheel is huge! The 31-20 was hooked up to electric, but to get it to sew you have to push down the treadle pedal. That is what puts pressure on the belt to get it going. Kind of cool, but I really would like to convert it back to a treadle. The treadle is all there except for the wheel! Cathy, I had asked you for a treadle pedal, but it is the wheel that is missing not the pedal. Anyway, I have not tried to thread and actually sew with the machines, just got them cleaned up to see if they'd run. My DH had to solder the 31-15's rod back together that lifts the foot when it is hooked up to a knee controller. I, also, had to reconstruct the tension disk on the 31-15 - it had been taken off and taken apart! I was really amazed at the power of those old machines, though. I hope today I can try them with thread!

    Oh and Candace, I have heard nothing on the long bed 301. I guess he didn't like my offer of $100? Oh well, like my husband says to our 3 year old grandson - too bad, so sad!

    Nancy
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    Nancy how is your dog today? Kathie

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    Nancy, they just relisted it again for the same price! LOL.


    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-301-...t_13273wt_1206

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    vintagemotif,

    Thanks for the video. I watched most of it last night. She answered my questions about the belt in the first minute or so of the video. At over 9 minutes it took well over an hour to download maybe 3/4th of it. I watched about that much then clicked off.

    I don't think I'd go for a metal belt unless I could get one for cheep. I can see it would come in handy for a "one size fits all" treadle base. One base with a belt that would stretch and contract for use on a variety of machines.
    Leather doesn't work too good for that.
    But I'd still be concerned about excessive wear on the drive wheel and hand wheel.

    Joe
    Joe, I have been concern about that too. That is why I'm using the polyurethane aquarium tubing or leather.
    It is interesting the different material that has been used. My favorite is the aquarium tubing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathie S. View Post
    Nancy how is your dog today? Kathie
    She is doing amazing. I recommend everyone who lives in rattlesnake country or goes hiking state parks, etc., get their dogs vaccinated with the rattlesnake shot. We had a Queensland who was bitten 10 years ago - when we first moved here. He was in intensive care for a week, had to have two anti-venom injections, which ran back then $800 a pop. He was sloughing off the skin where he was bit. He was never right after that rattlesnake thing. He ended up with immune problems. This Jack Russell is acting normal today. She ate, she is going outside to pee, her swelling is about gone. The dogs that get bit, who have had the shot - just bounce back so much quicker and easier. They still have to go to the vet, still have swelling and a lot of pain - but, nothing like the ones who aren't vaccinated! It just amazes me because of what we went through 10 years ago - like night and day! By the way, the rattlers are out in force. They have already had 15 dogs and 2 cats this year at the one emergency clinic I went to! Rattlesnakes are going to be a big problem this year! Probably because we didn't get a winter until March! So be careful all you hikers and walkers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candace View Post
    Nancy, they just relisted it again for the same price! LOL.


    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-301-...t_13273wt_1206
    Well, I sent them another e-mail this am asking them why they haven't even responded to my first e-mail offering them $100, when they are only asking $125? I didn't let them know I know they have the machine listed on e-bay for more. I told them that when something is listed on Craigslist with no phone number, we never know whether they got the e-mails or our e-mails just go to spam. If they don't answer this time, I wouldn't buy their machine if they lower it to $75 - it is just rude! Why did they even put it on Craigslist? And if they don't want to sell it on Craigslist why don't they take it off?

    I see they are asking $150 again on e-bay, but who pays the shipping? It is still listed as I said already for $125 on Craigslist. This is obviously a buyer/seller who is looking to make money. I am just going to forget this machine - not worth it!

    Nancy
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    I have to agree with Joe on this issue. I'd never put a metal belt on any of my treadles - they were not intended to be used with a metal belt. They have survived a hundred years, but I am not so sure putting a metal belt on them would give them another hundred years. I will stick to the leather belts they were intended to use. I also think the aquarium tubing would be a good choice, but all my treadles have regular leather treadle belts. I am too much of a traditionalist I guess, but I feel we should put on those old machines things that were intended to be used on them. I just don't like the idea of metal - for the noise, or the wear and tear on the machine hand wheel or treadle wheel.

    Nancy
    Nancy, When I picked up my first Two Spools that had been made into a e-machine at one time, it came with a spring coil. At the time, I didn't understand why or for what that coil would be needed with that machine. I just figured it must have been thrown in drawer and forgotten. It wasn't until I purchased the spring coil for testing that I realized the Two Spools must have had a spring coil for treadle belt. The two spring coils, old and new, have the same diameter and look the same. I believe leather was cheaper and easier to find. So, most machines had the leather belts.

    I do agree that there can be stress on the wheel if the coil is attached to tightly. One can easily lift the spring coil off the wheel when not in use, which I forget to do with my Two Spools.

    The leather looks the prettiest and seems to be the most natural for these vintage machines. The aquarium tubing looks odd, but I find that it works great!

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    How much does the aquarium tubing stretch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    How much does the aquarium tubing stretch?

    Joe
    Can I use Oxygen tubing? I have miles of it it is just a little smaller around. And yes how much does it stretch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif View Post
    Joe, I have been concern about that too. That is why I'm using the polyurethane aquarium tubing or leather.
    It is interesting the different material that has been used. My favorite is the aquarium tubing.
    And my favorite belt is still the leg off a panty hose. Never fails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Up North View Post
    Can I use Oxygen tubing? I have miles of it it is just a little smaller around. And yes how much does it stretch?
    Where do you get oxygen tubing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Up North View Post
    Can I use Oxygen tubing? I have miles of it it is just a little smaller around. And yes how much does it stretch?
    I don't know about oxygen tubing, but I would give it a try. If there is slipping, you could put a rubber band in the hand wheel to see if that grips the tubing.

    The price of the tubing that I picked up at Daiso was ~$2; I believe it was under $2. I finally found the one package under a pile of fabrics. Daiso calls their aquarium tubing air hose for aquarium, and it is 5 meters long, which is enough for two treadles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misseva View Post
    And my favorite belt is still the leg off a panty hose. Never fails.
    Please post picture. I would think the knot you made for attaching the two ends together would get in the way of treadling. So, how smoothly does it treadle?

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    I will second that the Aquarium tubing Works well, I have it on my 306w in a treadle stand. does not stretch much, but better than that it is "grippy" and i can run it loose enough to lift my machine slightly to get the bobbin plate off, and it does not slip. I was going to use oxygen tubing ( left over from my father's medical issues) but what I have is "ribbed" on the inside and i could not find a good connector. for the aquarium tubing I just snipped off an inch of tubing then slit the small piece length wise and rolled it up tightly and inserted it inside the two ends of the belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif View Post
    Please post picture. I would think the knot you made for attaching the two ends together would get in the way of treadling. So, how smoothly does it treadle?
    treadles smooth as silk. i have a friend that said she would have to see it to believe it -- now she believes it. when you pull the hose tight as you can and pull the knot really, really tight then trim off the ends it works like a charm. try it - you'll see. i had two new belts - ruined one because i couldn't get hole/staple to work and i was so frustrated that i tried the hose and it worked. after that i didn't even try my other leather belt. i'll try to get a pix tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greywuuf View Post
    I will second that the Aquarium tubing Works well, I have it on my 306w in a treadle stand. does not stretch much, but better than that it is "grippy" and i can run it loose enough to lift my machine slightly to get the bobbin plate off, and it does not slip. I was going to use oxygen tubing ( left over from my father's medical issues) but what I have is "ribbed" on the inside and i could not find a good connector. for the aquarium tubing I just snipped off an inch of tubing then slit the small piece length wise and rolled it up tightly and inserted it inside the two ends of the belt.
    Now that is clever taking the inch long tubing to use as the connector. I will give that I try!!! Thanks for sharing!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by misseva View Post
    treadles smooth as silk. i have a friend that said she would have to see it to believe it -- now she believes it. when you pull the hose tight as you can and pull the knot really, really tight then trim off the ends it works like a charm. try it - you'll see. i had two new belts - ruined one because i couldn't get hole/staple to work and i was so frustrated that i tried the hose and it worked. after that i didn't even try my other leather belt. i'll try to get a pix tonight.
    Ok, I always pictured in my mind this knot no matter how small making the treadling uneven and not smooth. I will have to test this one out.

    Thanks!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    Where do you get oxygen tubing?
    My dad is on oxygen and they send new tubing quite often so he has a lot of it and when My aunt passed away I got a box of tubing from her. It is just a tad bit smaller around than aquarium tubing. You may be able to buy it at a place that sells oxygen.

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    ~Tap, tap, tap.~ Waiting for photos of both the hosiery and the tubing since I have two machines waiting on belts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whigrose View Post
    ~Tap, tap, tap.~ Waiting for photos of both the hosiery and the tubing since I have two machines waiting on belts.

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    I posted the tubing the other day, but I'll post again. Here you go:
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles View Post
    Oh, but Janice look what you got! It was worth it!

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    Yes, I agree it was completely worth it.....but it was a surprise that it took that much gas for the trip. I just didn't expect it to take that much. I would do it again in a heartbeat, but it would have been better if the price per gallon was just a little lower, like $2.50??? Where's Newt Gingrich??? LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by misseva View Post
    And my favorite belt is still the leg off a panty hose. Never fails.
    Misseva, how do you attach the ends together? Just tie it? This is a great idea....and I want to try it. The belt on my 15 is slipping way too much...it's older and kinda slick.

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