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    I recently aquired a Pfaff 229. After searching for information on it, I have come up empty. There are a lot of 230's out there and they look the same on the outside, but no info on the 229. This machine was a challenge. Motor and cabinet wiring was shot, sparks were coming out of the dirty foor controller, upper shaft was siezed and the stitch width controll was siezed too. I have it running great now though. This is a brute of a machine that can stroll or sprint with precision. I was impressed with it when I was finished with it. Does anyone else have a 229?Name:  Pfaff done2.jpg
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    QUOTE=Mizkaki;5612858]Laura,

    Tomorrow is Friday. Got any machines that are misbehaving?

    Cathy[/QUOTE]

    aww. spent the day doing errands. stopped in at the thrift store and did find a cool jacket and some flannel sheelts for rags, only two machines, both stylists, bith missing foot control, plates, feet, etc. left them there. sorry i missed a chance to see you! Laura[

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishrose View Post
    I am not out of control at the moment. I left one of the pretty gold colored New Homes at the resale store yesterday. It was another 15 clone, though very basic. Interesting note was the motor set up very high and the wheel ran off a rubber ring similar to a bobbin winder and the bobbin winder was on the back. Machine looked good with new wiring, but the cabinet was a little rough.
    Think tose take an odd needle- a short one. but I'm not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    Nancy,

    Good point about how to use a HC 31. I never thought about it that way, but then again I don't have a horse ( I only have a cockatiel (my baby)). And my 31 is a treadle, so he's a real slow kind of guy.



    I haven't seen your Hitachi in person, only pictures. I agree, he's real purrrrrty.

    Cathy



    [ QUOTE=BoJangles;5613293]

    Cathy I can see HCing a 31 if you just want to mend something like horse tack. My 31's scared the heck out of me when I first started to use them - they are so extremely fast! With a HC, I could go really slow to get perfect stitches - especially in something where the stitches are part of the design!

    Cathy, have you seen my Hitachi? I need to take a new photo - I sanded and re-stained the table - he is very purrrty now! This is an original photo - before his re-do!

    Nancy
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    Nancy- that Hitachi is a beast! Yum! Laura

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    I went to the Goodwill outlet and bought a bunch of fabric scraps - one was 7yds long. Others were pieces cut for a 9 patch and a few looked like binding. Then my DGD Miss G (the oldest) wanted to know if she could have them. AWE sure kid do me proud with that Spartan. I think I'm going to let her have the 7 yds for the backer then cut some more squares and let her go to it... sigh... Oh and I only had $5 out of pocket. Oh and I got 5 vintage patterns. WHEE!

    And I sold that ugly orange MW electric sewing machine last night! I figured out a few things - it wasn't a bad little machine... just ugly.
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
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    http://columbus.craigslist.org/for/3361040205.html
    I ain't laughing - this is pretty cool but that motor needs better placement IMHO
    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
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    NEVER let a sewing machine know you are in a hurry.
    good mothers let you lick the beaters - great mothers turn it off first

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    THIS is why I'm not allowed to do carpentryhe 31 has 10.5 inches throat space. I had the ruler turned backward! Laura

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    Well, that explains at lot. Its OK, you have many other talents (and I've seen them folks).

    Cathy

    Quote Originally Posted by nurseknitsLaura View Post
    THIS is why I'm not allowed to do carpentryhe 31 has 10.5 inches throat space. I had the ruler turned backward! Laura
    Cathy

    "Most sewing machine problems are due to the carbon based unit in the chair in front of the machine"

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    The cabinet holding that Singer 9w does look weird with no drawers on the right side, but if you look closely at the cabinet it appears there never were drawers on the right side. That side looks to be complete and there isn't room for drawers. Weird cabinet. Really nice 9W!

    Something else weird. That serial number places that machine at 1879. Singer didn't acquire the Wheeler and Wilson factory until 1906? I don't think the serial number is complete!

    Nancy
    Last edited by BoJangles; 10-26-2012 at 07:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    OUT. Of. CONTROL??? AHEM.... sigh... aren't we all??? But who else will rescue all those sewing machines before they hit a land fill???
    I always bite my nails waiting to be sure that the shipping is ok. I hope that got there safely Nancy. They guy over at FedEx loves your address. He says, 'You're always shipping something there...." He is a hoot. He also remembered that my sister helped me pack one up.
    I think you guys made his year when he watched you two pack the Pfaff 260! I can see why he remembers you! He got a good laugh watching you two pack that machine! I remember you telling that story!

    I will let you know when the machine arrives Miriam! I am not worried about the condition!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by grant15clone View Post
    I recently aquired a Pfaff 229. After searching for information on it, I have come up empty. There are a lot of 230's out there and they look the same on the outside, but no info on the 229. This machine was a challenge. Motor and cabinet wiring was shot, sparks were coming out of the dirty foor controller, upper shaft was siezed and the stitch width controll was siezed too. I have it running great now though. This is a brute of a machine that can stroll or sprint with precision. I was impressed with it when I was finished with it. Does anyone else have a 229?Name:  Pfaff done2.jpg
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    Ok Grant, I have never heard of a Pfaff 229. I also have been doing some research and come up with zero, except for one 229 for sale on E-bay listed as a leather machine. I even went to the Pfaff site to download manuals - no 229 listed! But, if you do a google search you come up with lots and lots of sites selling bobbins with the 229 listed? I can't wait to get my 230 - then we can do a comparison!

    Oh and Grant, what is the serial number of your 229?

    Nancy
    Last edited by BoJangles; 10-26-2012 at 07:50 PM.

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    To those who don't hoard fabric.......this won't make any sense. To those who do hoard...no explanation is necessary.
    Stumbled across this stash at my favorite thrift store. Over 20 yards of batiks for less than $1.50 a yard. SCORE!
    Sure would like to see what the donor kept, since this is the cull.

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    Cathy

    "Most sewing machine problems are due to the carbon based unit in the chair in front of the machine"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    To those who don't hoard fabric.......this won't make any sense. To those who do hoard...no explanation is necessary.
    Stumbled across this stash at my favorite thrift store. Over 20 yards of batiks for less than $1.50 a yard. SCORE!
    Sure would like to see what the donor kept, since this is the cull.

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    Whoa Cathy, what a haul! I love those frogs!

    Nancy

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    It was the frog fabric that first caught my eye and made me look at the rest. That's when I realized that it was all batiks. Now to find a project to use this fabric on.

    Cathy

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    Whoa Cathy, what a haul! I love those frogs!

    Nancy
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    I cut my new stash into 180 6 inch squares so far. DD says the scraps would be overwhelming to Wilbur and Walter but DGD, Miss G. can have cut squares. I'm thinking of sending her 9 at a time... She has a little Spartan for piecing. Thrift stores some times have really good deals on fabric if you aren't too picky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizkaki View Post
    To those who don't hoard fabric.......this won't make any sense. To those who do hoard...no explanation is necessary.
    Stumbled across this stash at my favorite thrift store. Over 20 yards of batiks for less than $1.50 a yard. SCORE!
    Sure would like to see what the donor kept, since this is the cull.

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    What kind of fabric is "batiks"?
    Very pretty colors.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    What kind of fabric is "batiks"?
    Very pretty colors.

    Joe
    Joe - it's a dye pattern/technique. Originally it was made using wax to limit the fabric exposed to the dye (or at least how much dye can affect treated portions of the fabric.) Most that you find these days are actually printed to look like a real batik.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkCastleDH View Post
    Joe - it's a dye pattern/technique. Originally it was made using wax to limit the fabric exposed to the dye (or at least how much dye can affect treated portions of the fabric.) Most that you find these days are actually printed to look like a real batik.
    I used to do batik on silk - a friend of mine and I made scarves/wall hangings (1988) we stretched the silk on a frame. Then we had a tool to put the bees wax in and used it to 'draw' designs on the silk or we just painted the wax on the silk. Then we dyed the fabric some light color. Then we used the wax to cover the light color where we wanted to keep the color. Then we dyed the fabric again - we kept going until we used black. Kind of expensive but a whole lot of fun - we had little kids and that was a challenge. The kids loved to play in the wax... I should see if I can find the tool again some time. We tried all different kinds of things. Somewhere I ran across one - we played with an old sheet to see what it would do before we did it on silk - never did take all the wax out of it - didn't like it... Some stuff plays out and some not so much. One day my friend's dad who was a professional artist came over and made the most beautiful scarf for her mom. He made a comment I will never forget. He said, "Who needs talent, you can get expert at just about anything if you practice long enough." HHMM So many of us quit just short of getting good.
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    pinkCastleDH, Miriam,

    Thanks for the explanation.

    Joe

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    OH! I forgot - the last step is to get the wax out of the fabric. Hot iron. In our case we were using some real good dye so we took our silk to the local high school where they did some dry cleaning classes and took the wax out for free. We told them to wait until they were ready to change out the chemical. Then the teacher wanted the kids to do batik, too. I think they shut down the program before we got to do it with a bunch of kids. It was a fun thing. Expensive though. There are other methods. http://www.dharmatrading.com/ good place for stuff like that. I think there are other resist methods - probably better dyes. We were using high end stuff. My friend's mother funded us just a bit. I wish I had some of it around. Makes some nice scarves.
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    Nancy, it is 5-737-346. It was purchased new on Oct 11, 1957 in Palatine, Il. It came with a lot of paperwork on it but it has an owners manual for a 230 and a manual that is for models 332-260. I guess they may not have one specific for the 229. (?) Do you have a good source for a size wheel for the Pfaff?

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    I meant to say, STITCH wheel

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    Steve,

    I found a chart I made years ago of working space measurements. They are all home machines except the 31-20.

    MACHINE.......... NEEDLE TO ARM
    MODEL...............MEASUREMENT
    Singers
    31-20 10 ”

    403 etc 7 1/8”
    15-90 etc 6 7/8”
    201 8”
    66 8”
    306 etc 7 7/8”
    301 7 ”
    99 6 ”
    128 6 3/8”
    221 5 1/16”


    Other Mfg
    White Rotary 8 1/8”

    MW URR284 7 3/8”

    Wheeler & Wilson 8 7 3/8”





    Quote Originally Posted by IamaHam View Post
    I have been looking up the class 31 machines today and they look like they would work great on a machine frame. Exactly what do they measure from needle to post?
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    Mizkaki, love the material I know what you mean by stash. I have stashes everywhere.

    Everyone please stay safe from the coming storm. We are supposed to get snow from this one.
    Quilting with a friend keeps me in stitches.

    Trish

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