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    Quote Originally Posted by jackkip
    Nancy,
    How much did you get that machine for? It is in really good shape. Very nice
    Jackie
    Jackie I paid $50 for the 1879 one and $50 for one from 1939 (I didn't post pictures of the 1939 treadle), but they are both in very good shape. They were owned by one family who took care of them.

    Nancy

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    Wow, that is so good. Though not good for me. I showed my DH and now he thinks I should only buy machines for that amount. I guess he is right, the fun part is looking and searching for that perfect deal. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackkip
    Wow, that is so good. Though not good for me. I showed my DH and now he thinks I should only buy machines for that amount. I guess he is right, the fun part is looking and searching for that perfect deal. ;-)
    I wouldn't plan on paying only $50 for a treadle. I just lucked out. Most of the time the machines around here go for $100 to $150.

    Billy did you see my pictures of the 1879 treadle?

    Nancy

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    Wow! Bojangles what a find.

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    I wouldn't plan on paying only $50 for a treadle. I just lucked out. Most of the time the machines around here go for $100 to $150.

    I agree with you, but my DH is a used car salesman. So to him everything is negotiable, and cheaper is always better...... :-D

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles
    Billy here are the pictures. This machine is in great shape. The number is 3171412 -- I sent a picture, but hard to read with my camera -- I couldn't get a clear picture.

    The bobbin winder is just kinda stuck on the back -- not sure how to work it -- it must attach to the main belt?

    The tension disk is on the front on the machine towards the top. The front of the machine has decals instead of a face plate. I have no idea how to thread this machine.

    The bobbin is very narrow and just slides over a little handle into the bobbin case -- the bobbin does not have a removable case.

    Very interesting!

    Nancy
    This is not a 1879 machine.....its around 1910.

    You have a VERY NICE Singer 9W!!! I have one to but it is not as perfect as yours. The machine was made from left over parts from Wheeler and Wilson when Singer bought them out. A very nice and rare machine!!

    The needles are hard to come by and are expensive but it takes a Boye 18.

    Here is mine and I have not even cleaned it up yet but I lover her!!

    Billy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostn51
    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles
    Billy here are the pictures. This machine is in great shape. The number is 3171412 -- I sent a picture, but hard to read with my camera -- I couldn't get a clear picture.


    Nancy
    This is not a 1879 machine.....its around 1910.

    You have a VERY NICE Singer 9W!!! I have one to but it is not as perfect as yours. The machine was made from left over parts from Wheeler and Wilson when Singer bought them out. A very nice and rare machine!!

    The needles are hard to come by and are expensive but it takes a Boye 18.

    Here is mine and I have not even cleaned it up yet but I lover her!!

    Billy
    Wow, so the serial number 3171412 is wrong for this machine?

    I don't understand because I thought all machines made after 1900 started with a letter?

    Anyway, I am glad I sent in the pictures -- I was pretty wowed when you said it was from 1879!

    Nancy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weedwoman
    Quote Originally Posted by dunster
    It looks like the sphinx decal. Part of that Egyptian thing Billy has mentioned.

    Quote Originally Posted by SewExtreme
    I have been looking at a model 27 Singer treadle. These pictures aren't clear but can anyone tell what the decal is? :-D
    Yes, it's the Sphinx decal. I just got one a couple weeks ago, they are gorgeous.
    I decided not to get it. The guy sent incomplete replies back several times and a close up of about a 3" square of the decal just above the serial number.... A little weird so I will wait for another to come along.

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    Singer 301A Hog-Tied shuttle area . . .

    I found the 301 I wanted and brought it home last night.

    The bobbin and shuttle race area were all bound up with many many wrappings of thread.

    HELP! I have been all over the web for the past two hours. I have found the user's manual, but can't get an adjuster's manual except by pay/mail.

    I plan to buy one, but need to know just one thing this week.

    I got all the thread I can see cut and pulled out, but I think more is behind the shuttle/race rotary thing.

    I have never taken this type apart before.

    Any advice for getting in and out quickly without throwing timing off and such?

    Thanks,
    Aardie.

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    This is not a 1879 machine.....its around 1910.

    You have a VERY NICE Singer 9W!!! I have one to but it is not as perfect as yours. The machine was made from left over parts from Wheeler and Wilson when Singer bought them out. A very nice and rare machine!!

    The needles are hard to come by and are expensive but it takes a Boye 18.

    Here is mine and I have not even cleaned it up yet but I lover her!!

    Billy[/quote]

    Billy this is very confusing, but I love this machine! Can you explain the numbering -- why there is no letter in front of the number? I am trying to understand how you can tell it is 1910 instead of 1879.

    Billy you said it is a 9W is that what I look for -- for the manual?

    This machine is very confusing for me -- I can't see how to thread it --there is a little thing that sticks out on the front face bottom right-- it has a metal thing that points down -- what is that -- it has a wire on it that seems to be broken or lose on one side! Is yours like that?

    Nancy

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    Nancy, check out this site: http://needlebar.org/main~nb/manuals/singer9w/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weedwoman
    Nancy, check out this site: http://needlebar.org/main~nb/manuals/singer9w/index.html
    Thank you Weedwoman! I got the manual printed out! This machine threads weird!

    I have been searching for the needles Billy said I needed - Boyle 18 -- can't find them? Any ideas?

    THANK YOU AGAIN!

    Nancy

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    Look for Boye needles instead.

    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles
    Quote Originally Posted by Weedwoman
    Nancy, check out this site: http://needlebar.org/main~nb/manuals/singer9w/index.html
    Thank you Weedwoman! I got the manual printed out! This machine threads weird!

    I have been searching for the needles Billy said I needed - Boyle 18 -- can't find them? Any ideas?

    THANK YOU AGAIN!

    Nancy

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    [quote=dunster]Look for Boye needles instead.


    Ok I googled Boye sewing machine needles and the only thing I can come up with is vintage needles.

    Billy can I get new/reproduced/some kind of Schmetz needle that will work on the 9W machine?

    Nancy

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    [quote=BoJangles]
    Quote Originally Posted by dunster
    Look for Boye needles instead.


    Ok I googled Boye sewing machine needles and the only thing I can come up with is vintage needles.

    Billy can I get new/reproduced/some kind of Schmetz needle that will work on the 9W machine?

    Nancy
    Charlee gave us some numbers to work with for these machines but they are not exactly the same needle. The dimensions are right but you have to time the needle before you use the machine because they are industrial needles. I am still trying to locate them so I can try them out to see if they work like we think they will.

    This is one of the disadvantages of owning a vintage machine is the needles are sometimes out of production and you have to go to the needle book and start doing the math. A lot of the machines use a curved needle and you have to heat them up and bend the needles to match the originals once you find the right size needle.

    But the 9W is a completely different machine that anything Singer built. It is just left over parts from W&W after they bought them out. The handwheel turns the opposite from the Singer machines so try to remember that one otherwise you will be breaking thread and possibly bending the hook assembly.

    Billy

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles
    This is not a 1879 machine.....its around 1910.
    Wow, so the serial number 3171412 is wrong for this machine?

    I don't understand because I thought all machines made after 1900 started with a letter?

    Anyway, I am glad I sent in the pictures -- I was pretty wowed when you said it was from 1879!

    Nancy[/quote]

    The Singer serial numbers do not apply to this machine these were carry overs from Wheeler and Wilson. When Singer started to use theirs they put a W in front of them but there are no records left in the Singer archives of these machines. Chrys Gunther more than likely owns these records now. But I know my machine is a 1910.

    Billy

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    Nancy, your machine (The number is 3171412) is so beautiful. Wow. :D :D

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    What do you guys think of this one?

    http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/atq/1872934401.html

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    Hi. I saw a Freeman No5 treadle sewing machine for sale at a thrift store for $65, does that sound like a good deal? It is in a cabinet, treadle is inside. The tag on it says "parts and manual" are w/it. Guessing that is the belt. When I spin the wheel it moves freely so I think it would work, however I do not know what to look for as far as the bobbin is concerned etc. I looked around the net and here is a picture of it, however, the one I saw says Freeman No 5 on the top, not just Free.

    http://www.ismacs.net/free/fly11.html

    So, should I race back up there a get this machine? If so are there things I should check before buying? DH says I can get it if I will use it, so it has to work :). It looked to be in good condition, cabinet too, just needs a little cleaning.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by SewExtreme
    Nancy, your machine (The number is 3171412) is so beautiful. Wow. :D :D
    Thank you! I think it is beautiful too!

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    What is the difference between a Singer 127-3 and a Singer 127?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackkip
    What do you guys think of this one?

    http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/atq/1872934401.html
    Too expensive for a hea donly and the decal is in bad shape especially on the bed.

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    Ok. Here are a couple of before and afters of my Redeye. I have posted more in the Cleaning your machine tutorial. At least of the befores, anyway! I got it for free.
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    What a difference!! It looks great!

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    Thanks! There is some silvering of the bed decals, but it couldn't be helped unless I just did nothing. The jappaning is all cracked and I am guessing the shellac was damaged. They used some kind of gunk to even oil the tension discs. They were all stuck together.

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