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    What can you tell me about a Singer 348? Is it one that would be good to get? My hubby found one and I'm wondering if It's one that I would want to buy? I don't want one of those plastic or nylon gears machines. Thanks.

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    Janis,

    I have a Singer 328 and a 338. Both have all metal gears. Tell your hubby to take a screwdriver and "inspect" the machine by removing the top if the seller will let him. I "think" it should have metal gears. But I'm not positive.

    Joe

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    Grant, mine is not quite like that one....I'll get a better photo for you when I get home from work tonight!
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    Joe, I just googled the Singer 348 and found bunch of u-tubes on it. The first one, although I didn't watch it as I have dial-up, said that it takes flat cams and is all metal. I just might have to go and look at it. It comes in a cabinet, and all of my machines to date are all portables. I at least want to see it. Will let you know what I find out.....
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    I believe that Singers used metal gears up to model 620 (or so). After 621 (or so) they are plastic gears. This should be a metal gear machine.
    ~G~

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    Oh Charlee, I am so glad that you "popped in" and that you are well. Canning really is wearing on you. While I am an infrequent "writer", I am a daily "reader", almost a "lurker" but I have missed you tremendously. Don't wait so long to stop in again.
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    Janis,

    Let me know, I'm curious too. I do like the cam machines, they are fun to make stuff with. There is over 30 different flat cams to find and play with.

    Grant,

    In the 600 series possibly, but I had two 413s, a 457, a 518, and a 538 with plastic gears. They work but those gears are not near as durable as steel. Obviously.

    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueheavenfla View Post
    Oh Charlee, I am so glad that you "popped in" and that you are well. Canning really is wearing on you. While I am an infrequent "writer", I am a daily "reader", almost a "lurker" but I have missed you tremendously. Don't wait so long to stop in again.
    Donna
    Thanks Donna! I'll try to be here more often!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wesing View Post
    Dedemac -

    I love the decals and chrome on your Hexagon, and they are in such good condition. I've never seen one like it.

    Darren
    Thank you, we haven't done anything to it. My DH said we did get it in Scotland and He thought we paid no more than 45 pounds for it. So that would be about $90 or less. I would like to get it cleaned but don't want to damage anything.

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    Grant...here are the photos of the bobbin winder that I promised...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janis View Post
    Joe, I just googled the Singer 348 and found bunch of u-tubes on it. The first one, although I didn't watch it as I have dial-up, said that it takes flat cams and is all metal. I just might have to go and look at it. It comes in a cabinet, and all of my machines to date are all portables. I at least want to see it. Will let you know what I find out.....
    Janis
    348 is the same construction as the 347, Janis and Joe. The only difference is that 348 takes decorative cams, the same black ones used by the Swing Needle machines (206/306/319). It's the same blue color as the 347. Made in Great Britain. I think it was a '66-'68 machine, or thereabouts. I have one in my collection, and I also had a 347 that I gave to my niece. I never sewed on mine much. I bought both the 347 and 348 at estate sales and cleaned them up and made sure they would sew, and that was it.

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    Ok Charlee, I dug out my pix of my Anker or Free Westinghouse. I noticed that the stitch width is opposite of yours. Mine is widest to the right, while yours is widest stitch is to the left. I find that very odd. But I digress. Here is a better picture of the bobbin winder on mine. My friend with the Free Westinghouse had the same Bobbin Winder as was on my machine. That being said, It is quite different from yours. Very German engineering happening with the one I had. Is yours original to the machine? Could it be a Singer bobbin winder on it? It looks kind of singer like to me. The fender looks different too. The needle position lever on mine is marked and has a different knob as well.
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    Different badges too. Mine says "Anker Works, Bielefeld, Germany" and is a teardrop shape. Do you know what the serial number is on yours? I found a certificate of sale HERE that gives a 1953 date for it's serial number, and mine is after that one.... K1524375, so I would guess that my machine is a mid to late 1953 model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    Janis,

    Grant,

    In the 600 series possibly, but I had two 413s, a 457, a 518, and a 538 with plastic gears. They work but those gears are not near as durable as steel. Obviously.

    Joe
    Joe, My bad. I was trying to go by memory. And my memory can't be trusted. I know that I read something that told me the changeover to plastic. But like all things on the interweb, who knows if it was even true. Besides, I misplaced it. I will try to find that again. Maybe what I read was specifically for the Touch and Sew line only. That would make sense to me. This is a picture of a 603E. BTW, does anyone know what the "E" is for? I also have a 600E. As you can see it has metal gears.

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    It would make sense that if it is in the T&S line, that the change from metal to plastic was in between these model numbers. UNLESS the higher end models had metal and lower end models had plastic gears. But that would go against what I read recently. I wish there was a list of machines that said if it had metal or plastic gears in them.
    I am going to have to look into this more. I thought I had it down pat. If I can get a list together I will post it for all in it's own separate thread so it is easily accessed by anyone. I think that would be a great piece of reference material for a lot of us. Especially me that can't remember where I leave lists like this.
    ~G~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlee View Post
    Different badges too. Mine says "Anker Works, Bielefeld, Germany" and is a teardrop shape. Do you know what the serial number is on yours? I found a certificate of sale HERE that gives a 1953 date for it's serial number, and mine is after that one.... K1524375, so I would guess that my machine is a mid to late 1953 model.
    Charlee, I do not. I can ask the new owner if that helps. The year sounds like it was right for the machine I had and sold to a friend. YES!!! It is THAT good of a machine that I sold it to a friend! Mine came with no accessories, paperwork or anything. However, I even gave up my own personal nightstand cabinet (in pristine condition) to put it in. It was that special of a machine. But the new owner is very happy with it, and that makes it worth it to me.
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    Grant, this one came "nekkid" too...I was just interested to see which machine was older (what features appeared when) I would guess that your machine is the older model...
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    Hey Charlie so gald to hear form you again. We missed you.. Don't be a stranger....
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    Ah Skip...it's good to be "home"! I won't be such a stranger...I promise!
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    Welcome back Charlee!! Missed ya. Was actually getting worried ..... glad all is well.

    Love the new Anker!
    May your stitches always be straight, your seams always lie flat, and your grain never be biased against you.

    Sue

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    Quote Originally Posted by grant15clone View Post
    Joe, My bad. I was trying to go by memory. And my memory can't be trusted. I know that I read something that told me the changeover to plastic. But like all things on the interweb, who knows if it was even true. Besides, I misplaced it. I will try to find that again. Maybe what I read was specifically for the Touch and Sew line only. That would make sense to me. This is a picture of a 603E. BTW, does anyone know what the "E" is for? I also have a 600E. As you can see it has metal gears.
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    It would make sense that if it is in the T&S line, that the change from metal to plastic was in between these model numbers. UNLESS the higher end models had metal and lower end models had plastic gears. But that would go against what I read recently. I wish there was a list of machines that said if it had metal or plastic gears in them.
    I am going to have to look into this more. I thought I had it down pat. If I can get a list together I will post it for all in it's own separate thread so it is easily accessed by anyone. I think that would be a great piece of reference material for a lot of us. Especially me that can't remember where I leave lists like this.
    ~G~
    600 model is an Auto Reel (that refers to the bobbin winder), and I think that might not actually have been called a Touch & Sew yet. 600E was a change in the bobbin winder mechanism to supposedly make it work better. The 600 has to be manually reset after the bobbin is wound, but the 600E automatically resets. Those might have been the first wind in place bobbins for Singer? I don't remember.

    603 and 603E are identical to the 600 / 600E except they don't have the internal cam stack. These machines are all built similar to the 401/403/500/502 Slants.

    Sometime in the 620 series is when the nylon or plastic gears came in. If I recall, 620, 626, 628 are mostly reported as having metal gears, but there is some controversy over that and some people believe that some of those got plastic gears instead of metal. Any Golden T&S 630 and up and all of the 700 series are plastics. I used to have an exact model list for metal gear T&S but that was in 2000 and I have changed computers 6 times since then. lol

    eta: There is a 625 T&S and it's gray + dark gray front plate, so probably it's metal, too. It appears to have an internal cam stack.
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    Charlee, glad you are back and feeling well. Also nice machine.
    Thanks Glenn on the info on Jan. When I watch the weather channel I think about the ones I know that live in those states. We watch your state too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crossstitcher View Post
    Charlee, glad you are back and feeling well. Also nice machine.
    Thanks Glenn on the info on Jan. When I watch the weather channel I think about the ones I know that live in those states. We watch your state too.
    Hi Trish, My wife talked to Jan after the storm in Cranbury and she is okay this time to, the tornado missed her by a mile and half. She was very Lucky.
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    Charlee, you changed your profile picture!! I had to see your "wish I was in the Ozarks" to realize it was really you. Welcome back..... it's been awhile since I've been on, too..... life gets in the way sometimes, doesn't it?

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    It's good to hear that folks are okay after those nasty tornados...... I hate tornados!!

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    MadCow333,

    If you ever come across that list again, I'd love a copy. Thanks for the bit of data you did give.

    Joe

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