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    Quote Originally Posted by buslady
    Here are some pictures of me new treasure. Found it in Roscommon. Was just perusing the thrift shops and was talking to the owner of one. She said she had a friend that wanted her to bring one up there for her, but she was afraid she'd get stuck with it. She called her, I followed her to home, and it ended up coming home with me. So much for the SM Diet I am on. LOL. Even DH encouraged this one!!
    Just Beautiful!!!!!
    Texas Jan

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    I just posted some attachments for vintage machines in the buy, sell, trade forum....have a Kenmore buttonholer, a slant buttonholer, and some cams for a New Home if anyone's interested! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnaC
    I had posted this question a ways back on Page 1176 of this thread:

    "Can I ask a question about my hand-crank machine? I can sew for about 15 minutes before the screw holding the crank comes loose and it starts clunking loudly (and would fall off, I'm sure, if I just kept cranking!). Is this just something that usually happens with the cranks? I keep a screwdriver right next to the machine now so I can tighten it up when this happens, but it's kind of annoying."

    Miz Johnny answered and asked if my crank is original or repro. Of course, I have no earthly idea, as this is my first vintage machine! So here's a picture of the crank. If anyone has a suggestion about the problem of the screw coming loose, I'd appreciate any input.
    It's hard to tell from the picture, but I'm betting it's a repro, and am thinking perhaps the screw isn't quite long enough or isn't the right thread. The screw holding the motor mount on isn't long enough for a hand crank; the HC needs a slightly longer one. I don't know where to get one, but am betting Billy does.

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    If anyone in Georgia wants one just like it (in a BEAUTIFUL cabinet), a friend of mine had one at the NC TOGA last week. She didn't sell it, but would love to have the space!
    Quote Originally Posted by buslady
    Here are some pictures of me new treasure. Found it in Roscommon. Was just perusing the thrift shops and was talking to the owner of one. She said she had a friend that wanted her to bring one up there for her, but she was afraid she'd get stuck with it. She called her, I followed her to home, and it ended up coming home with me. So much for the SM Diet I am on. LOL. Even DH encouraged this one!!

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    It's not a Singer, the badge will probably say something like "Precision" and the decals will be slightly different than Singer's. It was simply decorated to LOOK like a Singer.
    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles
    Quote Originally Posted by hspirit_99
    found this at a thrieft shop. she is called an Aldena, but has singer decals and serial number. she isnt much bigger if any then my FW
    Ok now I am confused? That 99 clone has a name other than Singer on the arm, yet it has the Singer badge?

    Miz Johnny can you answer that one? Or Billy? Singer never badged a machine, and I have never seen one with any name across the arm made by Singer - accept SINGER?

    Nancy

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    Miz Johnny--Another question please. I have a 1920 White Rotary that seems to have been spray painted and different decals attached. I have another one that I can read the outline of New Home under black paint and there are decals over part of the letters. How common was it to redo these old girls?? How do you go about getting the pretty again?

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    Wheeler & Wilson W9 - - on local auction serial # 191012. Cabinet is in rough shape, machine turns over easy, didn't see much rust. Has one drawer with some attachments and did see 4 bobbins. Any idea of value, it's at $19 right now.

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    I have never refinished a machine head, but many others here have. As for the refurbishing of older machines, it was quite common. I have had several, but the oldest one is an 1869 Singer Model 12 that was redone with a Godzilla finish and a Singer badge across the arm. It was in very good condition by the time I got it, because the idiots who did the refinishing also put a clamp on it for a 15 x 1 needle--but did not retime it. I put a different needlebar on it and it ran fine.
    I also have a VS II with the same finish, and have seen several 27s refinished with either the Godzilla or a green paint. A lot of the refurbishing was done during WW II when metals were scarce.


    Quote Originally Posted by quiltdoctor
    Miz Johnny--Another question please. I have a 1920 White Rotary that seems to have been spray painted and different decals attached. I have another one that I can read the outline of New Home under black paint and there are decals over part of the letters. How common was it to redo these old girls?? How do you go about getting the pretty again?

    Texas Jan

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    Quote Originally Posted by sew wishful
    Quote Originally Posted by sew wishful
    I checked out the machines today. I was mistaken...the old black one is a MW, 1940's crinkle finish. It runs great, except it needs new wiring. I took a chance and sewed with it in it's condition, but I would not recommend anyone else do that. The other two...one is a Singer that ran just barely...the wheel turned but the needle bar didn't move. I cleaned her up and oiled her and before long she was humming! Very quiet and sews a good stitch. The other is another MW "Signature" uses cams and sews like a dream. The lady bought it back in 1980 USED and had it serviced regularly. I'm gonna find a good home for these machines or take them to the consignment store. Except the one that needs wiring....I'll try my hand at this one before sending it on. Pics to come.
    Randa, that middle MW is probably a National. I have seen now 2 others that looked the same with different names on them.

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    [quote=Miz Johnny]I have never refinished a machine head, but many others here have. As for the refurbishing of older machines, it was quite common. I have had several, but the oldest one is an 1869 Singer Model 12 that was redone with a Godzilla finish and a Singer badge across the arm. It was in very good condition by the time I got it, because the idiots who did the refinishing also put a clamp on it for a 15 x 1 needle--but did not retime it. I put a different needlebar on it and it ran fine.
    I also have a VS II with the same finish, and have seen several 27s refinished with either the Godzilla or a green paint. A lot of the refurbishing was done during WW II when metals were scarce.


    [Thanks so much. That makes a lot of sense. Maybe Billy will answer on the redoing.

    Texas Jan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostn51
    Quote Originally Posted by jljack
    I am waiting on my 66-1...should be here by end of week. Can someone explain the difference in the Lotus decals? What makes them "brown", and what other colors are there?
    There were the Brown and Orange flowers offered. The brown ones are the more rare ones and if I could find a Brown Lotus handcrank I would be in heaven!!

    Billy
    Well, my flowers are predominantly green with a little brown at the bottom. Does that makes them brown?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sewbizgirl
    Wow... just picked up the latest machine I bought, a Singer 15-91. The decals are absolutely mint and just glow! It has a nice 4 drawer cabinet, too. And the big surprise, it's a centennial model! It was made in '51 and has the blue ring on the emblem. Woo hoo! Can't wait to service it and try sewing. It already moves smoothly so I know it's going to be a good sewer. It came with a buttonholer, original manual, and several feet and one extra bobbin.

    They are starting to take over the house...
    LOL!! I know what you mean by taking over the house. I started with one little green Elna, and now I will have 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buslady
    Here are some pictures of me new treasure. Found it in Roscommon. Was just perusing the thrift shops and was talking to the owner of one. She said she had a friend that wanted her to bring one up there for her, but she was afraid she'd get stuck with it. She called her, I followed her to home, and it ended up coming home with me. So much for the SM Diet I am on. LOL. Even DH encouraged this one!!

    Buslady, that's a gorgeous machine. I think you need to change your tag line to "Sewing Machines are my obsession"!! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by buslady
    Here are some pictures of me new treasure. Found it in Roscommon.

    So much for the SM Diet I am on. LOL. Even DH encouraged this one!!
    I just love the Free machines they are lovely and the cabinets are elegant. Nice binge off the diet... :thumbup:

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    Aurora,
    In order to lower the machine into the cabinet you need to use the belt shifter to take the belt off the belt wheel or it don't go down. There is a lever on the front of the belt wheel to do that.
    In the picture you can see it by my knee.
    Sharon W.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jljack
    Quote Originally Posted by buslady
    Here are some pictures of me new treasure. Found it in Roscommon. Was just perusing the thrift shops and was talking to the owner of one. She said she had a friend that wanted her to bring one up there for her, but she was afraid she'd get stuck with it. She called her, I followed her to home, and it ended up coming home with me. So much for the SM Diet I am on. LOL. Even DH encouraged this one!!

    Buslady, that's a gorgeous machine. I think you need to change your tag line to "Sewing Machines are my obsession"!! LOL
    I agree OMG that is one beautiful machine!!!!
    Sharon W.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoJangles
    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora
    I have placed the almost perfect Red Eye into the treadle cabinet and installed a new belt (the old one was broken and in one of the drawers). I have apparently installed the belt incorrectly because I am unable to raise the head far enough backwards to raise the front wood panel to lower the head into the cabinet. I will get a new belt because I probably cut too much off the belt I installed. But the belt kept jumping off the big wheel -- any tips on how to overcome this issue.

    Also a bobbin is stuck on the bobbin winder, but I am thinking a good Kerosene soak will loosen it for removal. I have your instructions printed out for referral when I get back to the cleaning part. I just am not sure about the belt problem. Any guidance will be appreciated.
    Aurora, you attached the belt correctly. Once the belt is attached to the wheel you can't lower the head unless you slip the belt off the treadle or the wheel to lower the machine into the cabinet. Most of the Singer cabinets have a little switch thingy near the treadle wheel to loosen the belt out of the treadle groove. If your treadle does not have that, you can just slip it off the groove in the hand wheel. Either way in order to lift the machine far enough up to lower the head, you have to slip off the belt.

    Nancy

    Nancy,

    Thanks. It does have a little round switch thingy (technical term?) that moves the belt slightly, perhaps I have my belt too tight. I will try it when I return to where the machine is located. At first I was afraid the belt would come off and I would not be able to get it back on, but it did slip off several times and was easy to get back on track. So happy to know I put it on right the first time. Here, I thought my greatest accomplishment was to swap the heads so I could have both a treadle and a handcrank. Cannot wait to start the clean-up process and get them both humming.

    Thanks for such a simple solution. DUH!



    Sharon W.

    I just saw your response. Thanks, it looks exactly like the one on yours (by your knee). I look forward to getting my irons to look like those on your machine.

    Aurora

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    Is there a site that identifies Singer Attachments by part number? I Have #160629, a ruffle. Does It fit a 301A?
    381200 Singer G Britain, a hemmer or binder I think, what machine does it fit? J63455 seems incomplete, looks like it might have something to do with fold over bias binding but There is no apparent way to attach it to the machine. A presser plate 181825. Looking forward to your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a1crafter
    Is there a site that identifies Singer Attachments by part number? I Have #160629, a ruffle. Does It fit a 301A?
    381200 Singer G Britain, a hemmer or binder I think, what machine does it fit? J63455 seems incomplete, looks like it might have something to do with fold over bias binding but There is no apparent way to attach it to the machine. A presser plate 181825. Looking forward to your help.
    I have a suggest that has worked for me. Google the following: singer attachment 160629.

    When I Googled your part number the following site~~ http://www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/simanco/160629/ ~~ is one of the sites that came up. A lot of times I have found sites which will tell me all the machines a part will work on. This was a tip from the person I recently acquired my Singer 301A. :-D

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    Quote Originally Posted by SewExtreme
    Quote Originally Posted by a1crafter
    Is there a site that identifies Singer Attachments by part number? I Have #160629, a ruffle. Does It fit a 301A?
    381200 Singer G Britain, a hemmer or binder I think, what machine does it fit? J63455 seems incomplete, looks like it might have something to do with fold over bias binding but There is no apparent way to attach it to the machine. A presser plate 181825. Looking forward to your help.
    I have a suggest that has worked for me. Google the following: singer attachment 160629.

    When I Googled your part number the following site~~ http://www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/simanco/160629/ ~~ is one of the sites that came up. A lot of times I have found sites which will tell me all the machines a part will work on. This was a tip from the person I recently acquired my Singer 301A. :-D
    Thank you!!! I have some odd stuff I need to go dig out and figure out what they are.

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    I went to the library today to check out some new quilting books, but I took a detour while there and found myself in the sewing machine section. I discovered that my library has a wonderful book called Sincere's Sewing Machine Service Book by William Ewers, printed 1968. I haven't read the entire book yet, but this book is an excellent reference book. Chapters are dedicated to the long shuttle, class 15 oscillator, class 66 oscillator, the White Rotary, manual zig zag, the automatic zig zag, some miscellaneous machines, electrical equipment, attachments, service tips, and trouble-shooting guide. I suggest hunting this valuable book down if you haven't read it already.

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    Lucky you, vintagemotif, I've tried and tried to find one in the library - usually checked out or 'lost'. Let us know if it is worth buying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam
    Lucky you, vintagemotif, I've tried and tried to find one in the library - usually checked out or 'lost'. Let us know if it is worth buying.
    Does your library have the "Links" system? I have used this system and had books come from other parts of the country.
    I would borrow through the "Links" system first before purchasing the book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif
    Quote Originally Posted by miriam
    Lucky you, vintagemotif, I've tried and tried to find one in the library - usually checked out or 'lost'. Let us know if it is worth buying.
    Does your library have the "Links" system? I have used this system and had books come from other parts of the country.
    I would borrow through the "Links" system first before purchasing the book.
    I haven't tried recently. I think I will try again. I'm noting the name of the book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintagemotif
    I went to the library today to check out some new quilting books, but I took a detour while there and found myself in the sewing machine section. I discovered that my library has a wonderful book called Sincere's Sewing Machine Service Book by William Ewers, printed 1968. I suggest hunting this valuable book down if you haven't read it already.
    I checked Amazon and a newer version is listed for $385...so guess I will search my library also. At least I can do it online.

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