White Rotary 43 - Project of the Day
04-26-2019, 08:38 AM
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Thank you, Janey! I'm going to head to the hardware store today - that's a great idea, to find a rubber stopper that fits and make it work (sanding or whatever). Now that I've spent some $$ on attachments / manual, I'd hate for that one little rubber pulley piece to stop her from sewing again.
04-27-2019, 05:33 AM
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Amazing timing. I'm opening the cabinet on the same machine that my dad gave me over 40 years ago to get this machine running again. My father passed away 3 years ago. He bought the machine from the original owner. I also need a rubber motor pull - have you found anything that will work?
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04-27-2019, 11:11 AM
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Here's a picture of my, I believe, 1949 White Rotarty Model 43 that I finally started working with again yesterday, after a 40 year hiatus. It's sewing but does need a new rubber motor drive pulley. Appreciate the suggestions here.
Here's a picture of my, I believe, 1949 White Rotarty Model 43 that I finally started working with again yesterday, after a 40 year hiatus. It's sewing but does need a new rubber motor drive pulley. Appreciate the suggestions here.
04-27-2019, 02:22 PM
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Our White 43 was repaired this past month. The first thing the Montevilla Sewing Machine tech said was, “it’s repairable, except for the motor, which is custom.” Fun to share in parallel projects. Wonder how I can help? I’m eager start sewing!
04-27-2019, 07:30 PM
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Hi Suni and bracket -
It is nice to be involved in a unique machine project with other people. Hope we can share our lessons-learned and resources for getting these beauties up and running again!
I ordered a rubber motor pulley today that is not exactly the same, but it's the closest I've found. I believe it will fit onto the motor pulley "post" (hole diameter seems to be the same) on the White 43 and the outer diameter of the rubber tire is the same. The only thing that is different is the slant....or cone shape of the rubber tire on the original. The one I ordered does not have the slant - the width of the tire is a consistent diameter (I hope that makes sense). I'm going to see if the one I ordered can be sanded down on one end to form the "slant". I'm also curious how critical the "slant" actually is. I'm assuming it regulates the speed of sewing (adjust to wider part of the tire for more friction/speed). Going to give it a trial run "as is" before I start the sanding effort. With all that said....I'm expecting the new friction pulley on Wednesday, May 1, so I will let you know if it works. It was less than $10 - a bargain if we can get our machines up and running!
Thanks for reaching out -
Cyndi J
It is nice to be involved in a unique machine project with other people. Hope we can share our lessons-learned and resources for getting these beauties up and running again!
I ordered a rubber motor pulley today that is not exactly the same, but it's the closest I've found. I believe it will fit onto the motor pulley "post" (hole diameter seems to be the same) on the White 43 and the outer diameter of the rubber tire is the same. The only thing that is different is the slant....or cone shape of the rubber tire on the original. The one I ordered does not have the slant - the width of the tire is a consistent diameter (I hope that makes sense). I'm going to see if the one I ordered can be sanded down on one end to form the "slant". I'm also curious how critical the "slant" actually is. I'm assuming it regulates the speed of sewing (adjust to wider part of the tire for more friction/speed). Going to give it a trial run "as is" before I start the sanding effort. With all that said....I'm expecting the new friction pulley on Wednesday, May 1, so I will let you know if it works. It was less than $10 - a bargain if we can get our machines up and running!
Thanks for reaching out -
Cyndi J
04-28-2019, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by AnInspiredMess
Hi Suni and bracket -
... The one I ordered does not have the slant - the width of the tire is a consistent diameter ... I'm also curious how critical the "slant" actually is. I'm assuming it regulates the speed of sewing (adjust to wider part of the tire for more friction/speed). Going to give it a trial run "as is" before I start the sanding effort. With all that said.....
Cyndi J
... The one I ordered does not have the slant - the width of the tire is a consistent diameter ... I'm also curious how critical the "slant" actually is. I'm assuming it regulates the speed of sewing (adjust to wider part of the tire for more friction/speed). Going to give it a trial run "as is" before I start the sanding effort. With all that said.....
Cyndi J
Just curious - Suni, bracket and Cyndi J what will you be using to keep the hand wheel away from the rubber while the machine is not in use?
Will you be putting it down in the cabinet while not in use? The flat spots developed from the weight of the motor putting pressure on the rubber against the hand wheel. It is also true when the machine is upright, too.
Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.
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04-29-2019, 02:42 PM
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Hi Janey - I appreciate your insight into the rotary tire issue. I don't know why my White Rotary 43 has a larger diameter (and slightly coned) pulley vs. my White series 77. They definitely both looked old...and had been used...but I'm glad you think they might use the same one. I believe that Suni found information indicating that the same friction pulley can be used for both models.
As for the flat tire spots, I'm using a wooden dowel to keep the pulley from resting on the motor. I've also heard that bubble wrap works well!
I ran into another issue today on my 43. I pulled the motor brushings (those big black screws on the motor) and there were no brushes attached to the springs! Just the springs. I looked into the motor holes from where the springs were pulled, and it looked like threads on the side (of course) and silver metal at the bottom. I'm now trying to figure out if the rotary motor on the 43 didn't have brushes to push against the motor commutator. ?
Thank you again for your compelling comments and questions - I appreciate insight from experts who have done this before!
-Cyndi J
As for the flat tire spots, I'm using a wooden dowel to keep the pulley from resting on the motor. I've also heard that bubble wrap works well!
I ran into another issue today on my 43. I pulled the motor brushings (those big black screws on the motor) and there were no brushes attached to the springs! Just the springs. I looked into the motor holes from where the springs were pulled, and it looked like threads on the side (of course) and silver metal at the bottom. I'm now trying to figure out if the rotary motor on the 43 didn't have brushes to push against the motor commutator. ?
Thank you again for your compelling comments and questions - I appreciate insight from experts who have done this before!
-Cyndi J
05-02-2019, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by AnInspiredMess
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As for the flat tire spots, I'm using a wooden dowel to keep the pulley from resting on the motor. I've also heard that bubble wrap works well!
I ran into another issue today on my 43. I pulled the motor brushings (those big black screws on the motor) and there were no brushes attached to the springs! Just the springs. I looked into the motor holes from where the springs were pulled, and it looked like threads on the side (of course) and silver metal at the bottom. I'm now trying to figure out if the rotary motor on the 43 didn't have brushes to push against the motor commutator. ?
Thank you again for your compelling comments and questions - I appreciate insight from experts who have done this before!
-Cyndi J
As for the flat tire spots, I'm using a wooden dowel to keep the pulley from resting on the motor. I've also heard that bubble wrap works well!
I ran into another issue today on my 43. I pulled the motor brushings (those big black screws on the motor) and there were no brushes attached to the springs! Just the springs. I looked into the motor holes from where the springs were pulled, and it looked like threads on the side (of course) and silver metal at the bottom. I'm now trying to figure out if the rotary motor on the 43 didn't have brushes to push against the motor commutator. ?
Thank you again for your compelling comments and questions - I appreciate insight from experts who have done this before!
-Cyndi J
Do not put grease or oil in where the springs are. There may be small oil holes near the ends of the motor. I'm not at home, so can't go look. Maybe something in the manual??
Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.
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03-27-2021, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by AnInspiredMess
Hi friends, just had to share my first vintage machine "resurrection" project. I didn't even (really) know I had this White rotary until yesterday. My dear dad bought this is machine / cabinet for me 25 years - and was so proud of his garage sale "find". At the time, I was so consumed with career and living on my own that I didn't even look at the machine. Over the years, it traveled with me but was just became a heavy "end-table". On our last move, my DH wanted to throw it away after he pulled out a filthy, indistinguishable sewing machine and complained about the weight. Somehow, it made its way to my sunroom.
Flash forward to 2019 - I've reconnected with my sewing/quilting roots and I'm dedicated to saving vintage machines. I've been collecting for the past 3 months, and remembered the gift from my dear dad just yesterday as we gathered for Easter. I opened her up last night, amazed that she's been patiently waiting for 25 years. I gathered the necessary tools and products to clean her up - and here she is! I have a line of Singers waiting for me, but this is my first attempt to "resurrect" - I think she looks pretty good! Might be a White Rotary 43? - cannot find much online about this model. Will need to find a presser foot, rubber motor pulley, and manual - I'm sure it can be done. My dad passed away 4 years ago, and I'm sad he isn't here to share in my joy in this machine. I have a feeling he knows I cleaned this beauty up today. Thanks for reading...if you're still here. I feel ready to move on to my other machines now!
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Flash forward to 2019 - I've reconnected with my sewing/quilting roots and I'm dedicated to saving vintage machines. I've been collecting for the past 3 months, and remembered the gift from my dear dad just yesterday as we gathered for Easter. I opened her up last night, amazed that she's been patiently waiting for 25 years. I gathered the necessary tools and products to clean her up - and here she is! I have a line of Singers waiting for me, but this is my first attempt to "resurrect" - I think she looks pretty good! Might be a White Rotary 43? - cannot find much online about this model. Will need to find a presser foot, rubber motor pulley, and manual - I'm sure it can be done. My dad passed away 4 years ago, and I'm sad he isn't here to share in my joy in this machine. I have a feeling he knows I cleaned this beauty up today. Thanks for reading...if you're still here.
I feel ready to move on to my other machines now!Attachment 611957
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