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Thread: Windsor B, cast iron base, Electrified - Free

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    Windsor B, cast iron base, Electrified - Free

    Ok, this is one for the books...

    My EX shot me a text yesterday with a blurry picture of an "old iron sewing machine". It looked to have a motor, but the shot was bad enough to not be sure. She asked If I would be interested in it. Of course I said yes... (sigh... I know) How Much? She replied "nothing. it is a thank you for helping fix things from time to time". Too cool.

    So, now I have more Trade-bait for older machines and parts....

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    I forgot to take a new pic after I cleaned up the brass plaque. Shows patent date of 1920
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    This required a quick teardown and repair.... but it works and is not damaged, just worn.
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    This three-way connector is the coolest ever...
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    Top stitch-Bottom Stitch (not too bad...)
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    I love, love, love old machines. Does this have a name on it as to what maker? Too cool! You are lucky!

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    Sorry, It is a Windsor Model B, made by the National Sewing Machine Company. It has one serial number on the slide and a different one on the bed under the slide... working on the dating of the unit now.

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    Wow! Joey likey!

    Joe

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    Oh Wow! Luck you!

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    LOL Remember, if you have a machine or parts of machines that are older than 1885 to trade with me, it could be yours!!!!

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    Beautiful machine, don't have any to trade. You do a lot to take care of these old ladies and Hats off to you.

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    That's a beauty!! I would love to add a footed base machine to my herd some day. Just because.
    May your stitches always be straight, your seams always lie flat, and your grain never be biased against you.

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    What a beauty!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    I've never seen one like that. Really cool!
    Mavis

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    This machine is more likely an "Expert BT"

    Correction, It is most likely an "Expert BT" (3/4 sized machine)

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    That is a beautiful machine!!! I'd love to have it, but don't have anything to trade. The only really old machine I have (before my 1924 Singer 99) is my Gritzner hand crank. I don't know the age of it as I don't know where to look to check my serial number. It's going nowhere.

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    Trade Bait! A new one for the lexicon. Wish I had something really old to trade you.
    Sweet Caroline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janis View Post
    The only really old machine I have (before my 1924 Singer 99) is my Gritzner hand crank. I don't know the age of it as I don't know where to look to check my serial number. It's going nowhere.
    Janis: Good for you! Guard that old gal.... (I have about 80% of an old Gritzner on my workbench that I got from Cathy..)

    Caroline: Hehe, yeah, I'm full of em (as it were)

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    So here are photos of the two serial numbers

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    I have joined the NSMCO yahoo group (National Sewing Machine Company) and there are some folks there who are diving into this one also.

    I did learn that the cast iron base was an "Economy" option as it was less expensive to make than the wooden cases..
    Go figure....

    I also learned that the Motor and cast iron base combination narrows it to the 20's but the decals under the motor mount are hinting at an earlier machine that was electrified.

    The real expert on the other group site is in the middle of a life drama, but has replied to me personally and assures me that when life slows down she will work on this with me... too cool.

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    What a beautiful machine.Let us know when you get it all figured out. Real great old girl, and they sew so nice.

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    Steve,

    80% ?????? Where is the other 20%

    Cathy



    Quote Originally Posted by SteveH View Post
    Janis: Good for you! Guard that old gal.... (I have about 80% of an old Gritzner on my workbench that I got from Cathy..)
    Cathy

    "Most sewing machine problems are due to the carbon based unit in the chair in front of the machine"

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    Gorgeous...good for you ....thanks for sharing.
    with a passion for quilting and vintage machines..Singers: 99, 4 featherweights, Redeye 66, Lotus 66, Phoenix 27, 15-91, 301A
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    I wish I had something older than my hubster to trade. Please consider him anyway.

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    That machine sure is pretty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Material Witness View Post
    I wish I had something older than my hubster to trade. Please consider him anyway.
    Ok, I'll bite what's a Hubster??

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveH View Post
    Ok, I'll bite what's a Hubster??
    Hubster, AKA husband.

    I have one also, so far no one has considered him as a trade. He is just way too high maintenance.
    Sweet Caroline

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    Beautiful machine Steve. Enjoy.

    Have nothing older to trade --Darn =(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caroline S View Post
    Hubster, AKA husband.

    I have one also, so far no one has considered him as a trade. He is just way too high maintenance.
    Yeah no.... I have no need for one of those... lol

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    So there is one on eBay now, and it looks nice! Not that I should be pushing Ebay after my recent experience, but I think this seller has invested enough time and energy in the machine, and is asking $47 shpg, to care to package it right. No telling what their reserve price is...
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Windsor-B-Vibrating-Shuttle-Antique-sewing-machine-functional-show-piece-1912-/301054754004?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item461842 fcd4

    I got the one from Ebay stitching by hand rather easily, although the paint has a weird rough texture unlike crackled shellac in most spots. It stitches better than my New Home does, even with its new shuttle.
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    I'll watch ebay for a National motor to come up, I guess, and I see there is a bobbin winder on there now. This will be more expensive than is rational by the time it's all done
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