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I had a graduate level class the last few weeks. I had 100% in the class until the group project. The group was so disfunctional! I ended up with a 95.5%...I know still an A, but 100% would have been so cool. I have never had 100% in a graduate level class and I was so excited about the thought. The teacher did like my portion of the project (she didn't know it was mine). Okay, I am done being a baby and I will go quilt until I feel better. :) Thanks for listening.
Sounds like you are doing well!
Sorry the group project didn't go as well as you hoped.
Maybe a life lesson - teamwork matters?
You're not being a baby. I hated group projects when I was in school. I still don't think your grade should be dependent on someone else's work (or lack of it!). And they probably received a higher grade because you did so well. Hmm..maybe they should pay part of your fees for taking the class..!
I agree! Group projects are for lazy teachers. Fewer projects to grade and they know each group will probably have someone who does most of the work so they will get a good grade. That way they don't have to grade the poor students. One class my daughter had, I insisted that the teacher only grade her and give the other 2 students a different project because my daughter did all the work and provided all the supplies. The teacher didn't like it, nor did the other students, but she finally agreed to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mommaB
I always hated group projects, too. No matter how hard you work, if just one person doesn't care, the entire group is brought down . . . and the negligent person pretty much gets a free ride, from the work of the others! :thumbdown: I'm all for teamwork but one's grade should NOT depend upon the work of others! :mad:
I do not think there should be group projects at the graduate level. I never had one, it would appear that by the time you have achieved graduate status you should be accountable for your own work and not others.
There is always someone in the group that should be "voted off the island" isn't there?:mad:
Injustice hurts. I know from experience in a very similar situation that happened 45 years ago! The two "friends" who teamed with me both got A's and I got a B! And they both apologized after the class--but not enough to let the professor know who should have the A, I had created the project, and did ALL the WORK and they knew it. I learned a great deal. When I was teaching I never gave group projects--I knew the truth. Sorry you have had this lousy experience.
Perhaps you didn't mean it that way but I found the statement "group projects are for lazy teachers" to be quite offensive. Like it or not, collaboration and working in groups is a 21st century skill that all children (and some adults I know) need to have. Very few careers today are done by one person working entirely alone. It takes a lot of training from the teacher to teach students how to work as a group effectively. The OP's instructor probably assumed that, at the graduate level, the students already had these skills or would speak up if one team member wasn't pulling his or her weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by bibliostone
Quiltmania, I agree fully with you--The remark about lazy teachers was hurtful to teachers and students and I was offended too. Groupwork is necessary and being a team player is important. Plus, who ever said life is fair? It isn't. So learn to deal. Yes, it's sad that someone works harder than others, but that's life in the real world.