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    Old 03-05-2011, 07:16 AM
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    Is there a secret to using the laser for pantographs on the TL?
    When in the lower position the laser case hits the back roller on any pattern over 8 inches long. In the upper position the back roller blocks a lot of the light from pantographs wider then 7 inches. Since I have a 15 inch table it seems that I should be abe to use a wider pattern. Is there an answer to this or do I, once again, need to buy a better product?
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    Old 03-05-2011, 07:18 AM
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    I don't know anything about the TL but I have one from the Grace frame company, very adjustable and easy to install just about anywhere you want it.
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    Welcome to the board from Southern California!!!
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    Old 03-06-2011, 02:35 PM
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    so, is the laser you have the blue plastic one or do you have another kind? I have a gracie frame also but the problem is the positions on the TL onto which the laser can be attached and the fact that the laser is too tall to go uner the back up take roller. The attachment is made by a screw through the metal frame or the wooden sled. Changing is not difficult but with either position I have around 8 inches of actual quilting space. Does anyone have a solution to this problem?
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    Old 03-06-2011, 06:24 PM
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    Mine was having the same problem. My husband took off the little wooden block that the laser fits into and drilled a lower hole. We also adjusted the roller so it is a little higher.
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    Old 03-06-2011, 06:31 PM
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    There are holes on the base the machine sits on and a laser can be mounted there. I just found this out. People rig them up in all different ways and means to achieve what they are after.
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    Old 03-10-2011, 07:45 AM
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    When I raise the roller enough for the laser to go under
    it with out being hit, I get skipped stitches. I have reconstructed the laser case by removing the bottom wing nut and the plastic top and still I have a problem. It's when I have a large queen or king size quilt on the frame and have to use the laser in a sharp vertical position instead of a flat, horizontal position. The large size quilts leave no room to angle the laser and it is practically striaght up and down. I can't think of anything else to do that would give help.
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    Old 03-10-2011, 08:19 AM
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    my husband installed a block on the sled where i wanted it to be and now it almost touches the paper. when i don't use it, i swing it out of the way. if you choose the right spot, it doesn't hit the roller.

    i tell everybody who owns a tin lizzie to join the tin lizzie yahoo! group. you can check up on pictures of all the retrofits that people have been clever enough to think up.

    btw, this is true of all the machines. almost everyone i know has retrofitted her machine to suit personal needs. check out the sharon schamber website and see what she does with a fishing pole guide.

    edit to add: if you're still unsure, call tech help. i personally find them excellent helpers. they walk you right through step-by-step.
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