Annthreecats... That was an excellent link thanks so much! That clears up some of my questions. It seems you have to wait until they are mush inside beore this type is ripe and this variety is best used as a baking ingredient.
This was an interesting reply on that thread link... Anyone ever try this?
"For Hachiya persimmons, all you need to do to get it to ripen is to place them or bury them in RICE and wait for a couple of days/weeks and it’s ripen right up..Never freeze them..Bury them in RICE!! It works..My family has done it for generations."