I have used Warm & Natural for years and have had no problem with it, but after reading some of the replies in this post I might try the Hobbs 80/20 as others have mentioned there is a little more substance to it than the warm & natural. Thank you for doing this post, it is interesting and very informative, I will be watching very closely for more opinions. I feel getting opinions on products from consumers who use the product is the best as the product has been used in every day usage and not just in a test by the manufacturer or someone who does not really use it. Thank you again for posting this question.