Have you had this problem?
08-08-2012, 11:11 AM
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The thread has to sort of 'click' into the tension guide in the bobbin. It isn't enough to just place it in right side up, you need to make sure it slips under the little 'finger looking' guide and has tension on it when you pull the thread. I'm not sure which Brother you are using but that's sort of a 'generic' explanation if that helps at all.
08-08-2012, 01:06 PM
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Looking at your picture, the bobbin loads like mine. You do not have to pull the bobbin thread to the top. You just wrap it around the way the directions show, with the thread going the correct direction and cut it at the end with the built in cutter. I use a starter piece to eliminate the bunching of the thread when I begin sewing.
08-08-2012, 03:23 PM
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Several months ago I bought an inexpensive Brother machine to replace my dying old Pfaff. It took me a while to like the new one at all, but it turned out the upper tension inside the machine is off, so compensating for that helped. The only problem I cannot seem to get over is the bobbin take-up.
A technician at my LQS showed me what the bobbin area should look like, how the thread end should cross over the inserted bobbin and then come up thru the plate. (Please forgive if these are not the right words.) When I need to insert a new bobbin I often have to take it back out and try over and over again, sometimes a dozen times, before it [the thread end] stays in the right place long enough to sew. And then it sometimes slips "out" in the middle of a seam, at which point it begins that looping nonsense on the underside.
Long, long story to this point, but the question is: Have you had this problem, and have you found a "cure"?
A technician at my LQS showed me what the bobbin area should look like, how the thread end should cross over the inserted bobbin and then come up thru the plate. (Please forgive if these are not the right words.) When I need to insert a new bobbin I often have to take it back out and try over and over again, sometimes a dozen times, before it [the thread end] stays in the right place long enough to sew. And then it sometimes slips "out" in the middle of a seam, at which point it begins that looping nonsense on the underside.
Long, long story to this point, but the question is: Have you had this problem, and have you found a "cure"?
08-08-2012, 03:41 PM
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I think you need to take that machine to a different tech. How can the upper tension be off without the lower being off? Makes no sense.
I bought my Brother embroidery machine at Walmart, also my Singer 2662. I have not had a problem with either one...other than I messed up the brother twice by not reading the instructions & using the proper bobbin thread.
On your brother machine (what model is it?)...is it a drop in bobbin? I have the SE270D (since replaced with a PE something)...The bobbin thread has to fit into a little groove before wraping and being cut to the left of the bobbin area. I put a finger on the bobbin then pull the thread through the little metal lip (it has to go all the way) and then I wrap through the left side and cutter.
If the needle picks up the thread, but the bobbin does not stay threaded...it's in time...if it were out of time, the needle will not pull up the thread.
Did your LQS offer a different machine? Sorry to be skeptical, but what you are saying does not compute to me. I've had dozens and dozens of machines over the years (we got them at auctions and sold them in our used merchandise store)...cleaned and timed them. If the LQS services a machine, that should include timing. Do check that the thread is the right weight also...I was using 50 wt & my bobbin is factory set at 60wt as the thickest it will take. You want a bobbin weight thread (brother makes a really strong one), or bottom line thread...but do make sure to get it all the way under that little metal lip.
I bought my Brother embroidery machine at Walmart, also my Singer 2662. I have not had a problem with either one...other than I messed up the brother twice by not reading the instructions & using the proper bobbin thread.
On your brother machine (what model is it?)...is it a drop in bobbin? I have the SE270D (since replaced with a PE something)...The bobbin thread has to fit into a little groove before wraping and being cut to the left of the bobbin area. I put a finger on the bobbin then pull the thread through the little metal lip (it has to go all the way) and then I wrap through the left side and cutter.
If the needle picks up the thread, but the bobbin does not stay threaded...it's in time...if it were out of time, the needle will not pull up the thread.
Did your LQS offer a different machine? Sorry to be skeptical, but what you are saying does not compute to me. I've had dozens and dozens of machines over the years (we got them at auctions and sold them in our used merchandise store)...cleaned and timed them. If the LQS services a machine, that should include timing. Do check that the thread is the right weight also...I was using 50 wt & my bobbin is factory set at 60wt as the thickest it will take. You want a bobbin weight thread (brother makes a really strong one), or bottom line thread...but do make sure to get it all the way under that little metal lip.
Several months ago I bought an inexpensive Brother machine to replace my dying old Pfaff. It took me a while to like the new one at all, but it turned out the upper tension inside the machine is off, so compensating for that helped. The only problem I cannot seem to get over is the bobbin take-up.
A technician at my LQS showed me what the bobbin area should look like, how the thread end should cross over the inserted bobbin and then come up thru the plate. (Please forgive if these are not the right words.) When I need to insert a new bobbin I often have to take it back out and try over and over again, sometimes a dozen times, before it [the thread end] stays in the right place long enough to sew. And then it sometimes slips "out" in the middle of a seam, at which point it begins that looping nonsense on the underside.
Long, long story to this point, but the question is: Have you had this problem, and have you found a "cure"?
A technician at my LQS showed me what the bobbin area should look like, how the thread end should cross over the inserted bobbin and then come up thru the plate. (Please forgive if these are not the right words.) When I need to insert a new bobbin I often have to take it back out and try over and over again, sometimes a dozen times, before it [the thread end] stays in the right place long enough to sew. And then it sometimes slips "out" in the middle of a seam, at which point it begins that looping nonsense on the underside.
Long, long story to this point, but the question is: Have you had this problem, and have you found a "cure"?
08-08-2012, 03:52 PM
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See the drawing to the left? It shows the finer on the bobbin...the thread is running counter clockwise, and is brought back to the front and that is (3) where you need to hold the bobbin and make sure the thread "clicks" under that metal bit on the bobbin case..before you run it through the gray plastic cutter. Also, you need to not bypass that cutter...that gives the correct amount of thread needed for the needle to pull it up.
If when you tug...the thread breaks, you will have to try again, and possibly use a stronger (not thicker) thread. That is where you want a 60wt thread. My Brother threads the same way. And again...if the upper tension is off...then loosen the upper/or tighten the upper. Mine is never perfect either...on the tension, move the dial...or find a dealer who works on machines but does not sell the new ones.
If when you tug...the thread breaks, you will have to try again, and possibly use a stronger (not thicker) thread. That is where you want a 60wt thread. My Brother threads the same way. And again...if the upper tension is off...then loosen the upper/or tighten the upper. Mine is never perfect either...on the tension, move the dial...or find a dealer who works on machines but does not sell the new ones.
I got a pretty decent picture of the CORRECT way this should look, and hope I can upload it. This machine has a drop-in bobbin with a very primitive (simple) laying down of the tail. My issue seems to be when the needle & top thread come down to grab it, do they grab it right. (The Tech. at the store did say this was related to the top tension, so maybe I will have to spend the $ to get that fixed.) I was always taught to have both threads "up" before starting to sew, so I pull the wheel toward me to draw the bobbin thread up, before beginning.
08-08-2012, 05:41 PM
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I have Janome machines but the bobbins drop in the same way as your pic shows But they do need to be put in a certain way. I was taught when I got my first Janome to hold the bobbin up and the thread should come off so it looks like the letter"P". I know I put it in the wrong way once(don't know how) and ended up with spaghetti on the back of my work. Don't know if this will help but thought I'd mention it.
08-08-2012, 11:45 PM
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I have a brother too that loads like that. Never had an issue....you dont pull up the bobbin thread you just start sewing. I have made many quilts if your worried about not having a tail don't. Now mine doesn't bunch thread either at the beginning. Do not let people tell you you need an expensive machine. My first brother from Walmart is 15 years old and still works but I wanted more stitches and I'm a daily sewer. My second one I got 8 months ago and perfect still. It took me a minute to get used to the fact you dont have a tail when you first put the bobbin in. I just go slow. Happy Quilting
08-09-2012, 05:01 AM
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I don't know if I can explain this.Do you have the bobbin in with the thread comming off in the right direction?On my machines it should unwind clockwise.Is that true on your machine?It makes a huge difference.My old singers would still sew if it was wrong,but not for a real long time.When it starts acting up,flip the bobbin over and see if that makes a difference.
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