Originally Posted by dunster

When it comes to copyright, it's dangerous to try to compare one thing with another. Patterns or designs for articles of clothing fall outside copyright laws. Lists of ingredients for making food (the major part of a recipe) can't be copyrighted either. Applying common sense to copyright is often an exercise in futility.

Yet, I think copyright is very easy to understand in regards to quilting. Don't copy someone's original work. Don't make copies of any published/printed pattern without written permission from the copyright holder. (If it's published somewhere, it's automatically under copyright protection.) Technically you're also supposed to get the copyright holder's permission to display a quilt made from her pattern, but that is seldom done except for major quilt shows. (I think it's unlikely that the copyright holder would complain about the display of a quilt made from her pattern, as long as you give her credit for the design.) That's about it.

Originally Posted by dray965

It's all about 'ideas'. An idea cannot be copyrighted.

For example, think recipes. Quilts patterns and recipes are similar. It is a copyright infringement to copy the written pattern and to represent or sell that pattern as my own. Just like it would be against the law for me to copy down a recipe and represent it as my own recipe or to sell it as my own recipe. However...I can use that recipe anytime I want...I can even sell those cookies that I made from it...no copyright infringement. ....

If I tweak the recipe in a decidedly and substantial way and write that tweaked recipe down in my own words, I have not broken copyright law.

If I take a quilt idea and am inspired to make a quilt that is similar but decidedly different in a substantial way. . . that quilt is mine.

However...the key words are decidedly different in a substantial way. You can't make a minor change and call it yours.

It's all about ideas.

However...that being said...I'm with Shazeeda...don't worry about it...just keep on quilting.

Originally Posted by dunster

(If it's published somewhere, it's automatically under copyright protection.)

Originally Posted by Quiltngolfer

I don't know the answer to this one either. My friend and I were shopping one day and saw a pretty quilt. We started to take a picture and were asked to leave the store. It really hurt my feelings. I don't remember now why we tried to take a picture, but the lady made us feel like thieves. I didn't even quilt at that time, so I never meant to "steal" her pattern. My guess is if you intentionally copy someone's pattern exactly without their permission, you infringe on the copyright. If you make some changes, then it would be your new pattern. There are so many quilt patterns out there now, how can we possibly know if a pattern is copyrighted?

Originally Posted by Quiltngolfer

I don't know the answer to this one either. My friend and I were shopping one day and saw a pretty quilt. We started to take a picture and were asked to leave the store. It really hurt my feelings. I don't remember now why we tried to take a picture, but the lady made us feel like thieves. I didn't even quilt at that time, so I never meant to "steal" her pattern. My guess is if you intentionally copy someone's pattern exactly without their permission, you infringe on the copyright. If you make some changes, then it would be your new pattern. There are so many quilt patterns out there now, how can we possibly know if a pattern is copyrighted?

Originally Posted by catmcclure

I wanted to take a photograph of a wall quilt at the Houston show one time. The booth attendant asked me not to and said it was against the rules. The fear was that I'd take the photo and make my own pattern. Instead, she gave me some handouts with much nicer photographs of that quilt and several others. I really didn't have the heart to tell her that I could make a much better pattern from her handout than I ever could with my photograph.

Originally Posted by FubsyMog

Not sure if this is any help, but I used was taught (art) by someone who had previously worked in the fashion industry. She said that regarding clothing sold in major stores that was a 'copy' of a catwalk design, the general rule was that 'five small things' had to be changed from the original garment. This way, it was not considered a 'copy', even though they looked extremely similar - the alterations could be as tiny as putting different buttons on, or a different stitch along a pocket.