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Old 01-18-2015, 08:30 PM
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FYI on the bright pink Brother 461 Festival.

The feed dogs didn't go back N forth, just up N down. that was the stitch length shaft , which a 15 clone style, easy to remove, took maybe 30/40 minutes, then every thing worked fine.

last night I checked and lude the gears,, which only drive the bobbin. Pfaff style, The gears are metal not plastic they do look like pot metal. which breaks, I found new gears at $24.95.

before tearing into that machine I did the google searching on the feed dog moving thing .. every site I read it ended up being blamed on broken PLASTIC gears. even a OSMG telling a lady to toss it that repair cost would be to high in labor.

HOG wash !!!!!! I bet anyone here could replace those gears in 30 minutes 2 hours at the very most. meaning getting out tools to the final putting everything away.
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Old 01-18-2015, 10:28 PM
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FYI on the bright pink Brother 461 Festival.

The feed dogs didn't go back N forth, just up N down. that was the stitch length shaft , which a 15 clone style, easy to remove, took maybe 30/40 minutes, then every thing worked fine.

last night I checked and lude the gears,, which only drive the bobbin. Pfaff style, The gears are metal not plastic they do look like pot metal. which breaks, I found new gears at $24.95.

before tearing into that machine I did the google searching on the feed dog moving thing .. every site I read it ended up being blamed on broken PLASTIC gears. even a OSMG telling a lady to toss it that repair cost would be to high in labor.

HOG wash !!!!!! I bet anyone here could replace those gears in 30 minutes 2 hours at the very most. meaning getting out tools to the final putting everything away.
Hmm...Food for thought. I might just have to find me one of those machines now. Everything I've read says there's a plastic gear in the top of the machine that breaks. Feed dogs stuck are common with that bullet shaped piece that gets stuck and needs cleaned. I've only had it happen once and it was an easy fix. Shot it with PB blaster and it came free in about 10 minutes.
All my Brothers(I think except the Pacesetter) have the hook gear in a sort of sealed box. I don't think I've ever seen one wear out or break. I don't think any of mine are pot metal either, they're steel. Some of my Brothers have another steel gear in the top, just to the left of the hand wheel. Here's the thing about that gear - it doesn't need greased, it gets oil. Now some are going to disagree with me, but here's my thinking on it. If you follow the oil path on these machines, there's an oil hole directly above that gear. If I oil the machine according to the manual, that gear gets oiled. So why put grease on a gear that's gonna get oiled?

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Old 01-18-2015, 11:55 PM
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ok on top about center is a cog wheel, thats not a gear. it is white in color , maybe plastic, maybe nylon ? That runs the built in cams

those hook gears just guess on the pot metal by there rough texture. what ever the metal is, there cast , then machined, not machined from billet

I read 5/6 sites on the 461 most post where around 2009, got the feeling those machines were dumped and could have been an easy fix.. worth it ??????
I was searching feed dogs the post where pertaining to that, There could be a upper gear buried down deep under all those plates..if so it would have something to do with those cams

I get 21 lbs on a full size in the case machine. I could make a pink light weight tractor

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Old 01-19-2015, 05:51 PM
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Default Bought 11 from fred today. and now 6 more

3 years ago I said NO more streamliners. could stop from getting this one, I should have gotten it's big brother. 3/4 VS Wards brunswick
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3/4 VS zz JA 47 xxxxxxx universal
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the Ol Blue Morse
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if you have fabric to sew this will do the job


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This has no name,,, has a JA 34 # Body and motor is the greenish like a white FW, hand wheel bobbin winder face plate, rear plate, light (plastic) are a off white
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now the nasty ,, yes I paid money for it
oops my camera didn't want to take a pic of it. They call it a black knee she NU BU something like that and it is nasty and froze up, almost
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Old 01-19-2015, 06:11 PM
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Fabric.
That was it?
Fabric?
At LEAST call it "Sherlock".
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Old 01-19-2015, 06:24 PM
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ever say " I'd give any thing for just one good screw"

or " all I need is one little part"

There is about every screw you could ever want in that pile

today I layed on the floor, rolled on my back and slide under a SM cabinet to see whats in the rear bedroom.

There has to be well over 30 more in there, treadle, cased machines and cabinet machines

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Old 01-19-2015, 06:25 PM
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when I look at this the photo's are not showing ???
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Old 01-19-2015, 07:28 PM
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Part of my thinks those streamliners like your Brunswick are just plain ugly. Another part of me likes them, especially when they have nice deco details like the chrome nose on the Brunswick. I think it's the purposefully small wheel that never looks right to me. Like a bob tailed cat, they look like something's missing. I still haven't rounded up a good example for my herd. To me they're an interesting dead end in sewing machine design.
I have an older style Brunswick that I haven't dug out of storage yet. I know it needs new wiring among other things.

Is that condensation I'm seeing all over those machines? They wouldn't have been able to take too many more hot/cold cycles under those conditions.
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great eye Rodney, I was going to mention that, but forgot. every machine that is in a case has been soaked. the under side is worst. There really isn't much rust on any of these, cases are wet, most the bottoms are really bad.

It was interest finding this 3/4 streamer, there is also the full sized in there, in fact the is only one missing to make the complete collect of streamliners. yes the small wheel kills the looks

right now there is 12 sitting by the wood stove and nasty kneeshe is turning over
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Old 01-19-2015, 08:06 PM
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alright !! Who used up all my oil ??
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