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    Old 04-27-2019, 08:30 AM
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    I've found the flat end bars (later model) store hooked to the handle, and the barrel end store on the side of the case.
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    Old 04-29-2019, 10:59 AM
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    I double-checked the fit of my knee lever with the single hardware piece on the end panel of the lid, and definitely neither end of the lever will fit. Perhaps I don't have the original lever, but it does fit on the shaft that connects to the controller. This is the only knee operated machine I've ever actually seen in person, so I don't know how many other lever designs, or orientations for storage there might be. But, it seems clear that this lever doesn't fit this mounting bracket.
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    Old 05-02-2019, 07:10 AM
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    Originally Posted by mtboze
    ...Perhaps I don't have the original lever, but it does fit on the shaft that connects to the controller....
    You must have the correct lever/bar since it fits the machine. Probably the cover was replaced. It has been a while since I have had my 1929 99 out, so I got it out and snapped a picture of how it is mounted. The front side (that has the Singer decal) is down in the picture.

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    The Simanco #191412 is on the bar.

    I really need to get some of Glenn's "elixir" on that. You can see there are a lot of scratch marks .

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    Old 05-02-2019, 02:09 PM
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    I have two knee-lever machines. The one with the curved lever, that started this thread and doesn’t fit in the case lid, is on the 99 from 1929. It is marked “18195”.


    The other machine is a 128 from 1924, and it is marked “19142”. It also has “99 MACH 201 SET”, and “128” stamped below that. It is mounted in the case lid similar to Janey’s, except that the right-hand mount is located on the right side of the oil can holder in my case list. Even though it is marked with the same number as Janey’s, her knee lever looks more bent than mine, which is almost totally straight.

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    Old 05-02-2019, 02:43 PM
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    A correction to the last post: I goofed (no excuse) on typing the model numbers for the two knee levers. My curved one has the same number as Janey's curved lever. The difference I found was that the mounting arrangement I have in my 128 case, which is near identical to her curved lever in the 99 case, is accommodating an almost straight lever.

    It's challenging that cases, levers and other parts found with any machine can so easily be mismatched. And, for someone totally new to acquiring vintage sewing machines, it causes me to question whether it's even worth the effort to try to asssemble a machine as it was originally shipped.
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    Old 05-02-2019, 05:13 PM
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    Originally Posted by mtboze
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    It's challenging that cases, levers and other parts found with any machine can so easily be mismatched. And, for someone totally new to acquiring vintage sewing machines, it causes me to question whether it's even worth the effort to try to asssemble a machine as it was originally shipped.
    It happens a lot with machines this old. Plus some of them made it through the "Depression Era" where many 'made do' with what they had. Some probably would repair or replace parts with whatever worked.

    I picked up a White that had a Japanese ZZ manual and other mismatched feet. There were top clamp feet (for the White machine), a broken back clamp ruffler, some high shank feet and a low shank foot. Then there was a bag of sewing notions I picked up at a thrift store that had five different types of bobbins. Then there are lots of items that show up in sewing machine drawers don't have anything to do with sewing - like plastic toy soldiers, etc.

    I think you may have missed a digit on the straight knee bar. I've never seen a table that holds a 'portable' case. I'm thinking that may have a different knee lever.

    My #191412 knee lever also has "99 mach 200 set" and "128 " 201 set"

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    Old 05-02-2019, 05:41 PM
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    Thanks for the number. The stamping was so faint, I was using a jeweler's eye loupe to read it. There was a space in the number, but the thickness of the enamel gave no hint the there was a digit hiding underneath. Thanks for your gracious, encouraging words. The idea of finding unexpected treasures in drawers or boxes IS pretty exciting. Most recently finding Singer grease tubes in a couple of cardboard accessory boxes (including a black box - I had never heard of a black one), and a rolled up 27K/28K 5 1/2" by 8 1/2" manual rolled up inside the wooden accessory compartment inside a coffin top cover.
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    I just found a straight knee lever, but it is for a 24-62 at http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mach...g-machine.html (Not affiliated with link) I happen to have the parts list for that machine and the number is 191186.

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    Old 01-31-2023, 05:47 AM
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    The straight knee bar also fits a 99 in base that drops into a 301 combination table. With this set up, the ? shaped knee bar extends out too far out to fit between the base and the cabinet. I have this cabinet, but it is out getting reglued.
    https://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_machine_company/singer-combination-table-301.html

    Originally Posted by OurWorkbench
    I just found a straight knee lever, but it is for a 24-62 at http://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mach...g-machine.html (Not affiliated with link) I happen to have the parts list for that machine and the number is 191186.

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