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icon17 08-24-2012 07:48 AM

? About Scraping Old Machines
 
Hi ALL!
My Spouse & I Did some Buying(old sewing machines) awhile back ended up with some Good some Bad! My ? is this We want to Scrap what has turned out to be Bad. But Do you all think it will be worth it to remove the parts/label them as to what machine they came off of and to then offer them to others Who may need them? also what parts are most need? Thanks in advance :)

J Miller 08-24-2012 08:01 AM

Well, I'm the wrong one to talk to about scrapping a machine, but ........ if the machine is so bad it cannot be made to work then parting it out is one way to go.
If it's just grungy or a bit rusted up or needing some repairs, I fix 'em.

When you part them out take everything off. The little screws that hold things, the brackets, the levers, knobs, everything that might be lost keep it for sale. Even if some of the parts don't look really good, they can be a Godsend to someone with a machine that needs that part to work.

What machines are you considering getting rid of?
Pictures?????



Joe

irishrose 08-24-2012 08:11 AM

I am ready to scrap a Touch & Sew 639. I want the attachments and maybe the foot pedal, but the rest is history. The little gray spring that holds the bobbin in place is bad. A machine is no good without a bobbin. Too bad as this is the one that chainstitches. Not that I ever need to chainstitch. I may keep the case, too. It won't match any of my pretty black machines, but it will keep the dust off them.

I couldn't scrap an older treadle, but I did manage to find someone who wanted my one that was too much work for me.

Candace 08-24-2012 09:12 AM

Absolutely, label and re-home the parts.

J Miller 08-24-2012 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by irishrose (Post 5464358)
I am ready to scrap a Touch & Sew 639. I want the attachments and maybe the foot pedal, but the rest is history. The little gray spring that holds the bobbin in place is bad. A machine is no good without a bobbin. Too bad as this is the one that chainstitches. Not that I ever need to chainstitch. I may keep the case, too. It won't match any of my pretty black machines, but it will keep the dust off them.

I couldn't scrap an older treadle, but I did manage to find someone who wanted my one that was too much work for me.

Soooo ..... why not replace the spring? If that's the only thing wrong with it, seems like a shame to scrap it.

Joe

Charlee 08-24-2012 01:43 PM

Especially with a Singer, SAVE THOSE SCREWS! Singer made their own screws/bolts that have a thread that is exclusive to Singer machines....no other screws will fit a Singer machine, nor will these screws fit anything else...

irishrose 08-24-2012 02:02 PM

Joe, if I could find a replacement for that broken spring, what would I have? The repair is just too much for that particular machine and my sewing repairman doesn't want it for parts.

I did find a 99 today in a cabinet with a small bench and accessories including two of the never ending buttonholers for $15. I didn't buy it. Now I feel bad, but I just don't need it. What has need got to do with it? Space?

Candace 08-24-2012 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by irishrose (Post 5465008)
Joe, if I could find a replacement for that broken spring, what would I have? The repair is just too much for that particular machine and my sewing repairman doesn't want it for parts.

I did find a 99 today in a cabinet with a small bench and accessories including two of the never ending buttonholers for $15. I didn't buy it. Now I feel bad, but I just don't need it. What has need got to do with it? Space?

I can understand. It costs more for a repairman to do the work than some of these machines can be replaced for. That's how I fell into repairing my machines. Someone will buy the machine you left behind, don't you worry:>

QultingaddictUK 08-24-2012 02:37 PM

I am so picky about throwing out a worn out machine as there is so much that can be used and saved to bring to life anthor lovely old machine. Here is a story of one that I have just rescued http://www.quiltingboard.com/vintage...y-t195124.html If I hadn't saved some bits n pieces from my old worn out but well loved machine this one would have been dumped and that would have been such a shame cos she now sews her little old heart out with perfect stitches, I love her to bits.

DanofNJ 08-25-2012 08:04 AM

Though it pains me to hear about scrapping machines, some of those plastic geared singers should have been scrapped before they were sold.

Nonetheless, I agree...save ALL metal parts and screws, bobbins cases, and emblem plates.

One man's trash is another's treasure.

HillCountryGal 08-25-2012 08:28 AM

The sewing machine repair guy I use is ALWAYS happy to take old "useless" machines. He leaves them whole and takes whatever part he might need from them. He also passes on the savings to his customers. Some replacement parts are expensive + shipping, etc. He charges minimal $$ to use salvaged parts.

irishrose 08-25-2012 09:09 AM

I think I will ask the my repairman again about the T&S before I take it apart because it has new gears. It doesn't have a bobbin case - it has a screwy spring that hold the bobbin in place.

J Miller 08-25-2012 11:41 AM

irishrose,

Do you think you could take a pic of the bobbin area on that machine? I've got lots of different kinds of machines but no T&S's. I'm honestly not totally familiar with that bobbin retaining spring it's got. You've got me curious.

Joe

irishrose 08-25-2012 06:58 PM

It'll be a few days. I don't have it here right now. It's a little different, for sure. All T & S's don't have it. The one I was given that I passed on to my GD has a regular drop in bobbin. That one sews a great SS, but the ZZ clunks. She's been told to leave the ZZ alone unless my son wants to put a new gear in it.

J Miller 08-26-2012 10:29 AM

irishrose,

Is this the same as your machine? Go to the GW auction here: http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem...temID=11283006
Then go to the 4th pic down on the right. It shows a little lever thing over the top of the bobbin.

Joe

MaggieBB 08-26-2012 11:05 AM

Joe,I have this machine it sewed wonderfully up until about six weeks ago then with a clunk it quit, I opened it up and in the bottom of it were peices of the plastic gears laying in the bottom! Checked with repair man said it would cost $200.00 to fix, it has most of the attachments and manuel say it will chain stitch, which I have never used. Now it sits in a corner with all of its attachments wrapped in plastic to keep dust off. Just have to deside what to do with it!

J Miller 08-26-2012 11:21 AM

Maggie,

Well, if it were my machine I'd order the gears in and replace them myself. I've priced most of the bottom gears and they don't run much over $30.00 per set. At least those I've priced don't.
$200.00 to replace the gears and reset the timing .............. OUCH!!!!

Did he try to sell you a new one by some chance?


Joe

irishrose 08-26-2012 11:36 AM

Yes, that's it. The little gray spring to the right of the bobbin is raised. You can force the slide plate on, but the thread doesn't have room to pass over the bobbin to pick up the bobbin thread. I may take it in and have the guy look at it. I like it because it's a SS machine.

J Miller 08-26-2012 02:32 PM

irishrose,

I haven't had the opportunity to work with one like that. I'll just say I hope your OSMG can fix it without selling you the whole store.

Joe

irishrose 08-26-2012 03:03 PM

He just fixed the wobbly Pfaff by welding an area for $15. I didn't think that was too bad.


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