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miriam 01-18-2013 10:18 AM

Singer 411G, Singer 401G and a Singer 401A Slant-O-Matic Singer machines
 
I will have to do about one picture per little window here so this doesn't crash - please be patient.

I have a fascination with the Slant-O-Matic Singers. I've been very blessed with several different ones. I am hoping to load some pictures to show just how different they can be.
My Singer 401G was one I found in the trash. He isn't very pretty - mechanically he is a wonderful machine. The Singer 411G is much prettier but she has a couple broken spool pins. Notice that the fasten on different than the 401s. The Singer 401A is what most of you know and love and it, too has a broken spool pin.

miriam 01-18-2013 10:19 AM

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Singer 401G set up to treadle
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miriam 01-18-2013 10:19 AM

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Singer 411G and a Singer 401A
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miriam 01-18-2013 10:20 AM

Ok now you have met these machines. Are you ready to look at the details?
It will take me a little time - please be patient.

miriam 01-18-2013 10:21 AM

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Singer 411G and 401A with the disk cover doors open
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miriam 01-18-2013 10:22 AM

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Singer 401G is pretty much like the 411G but the printing is pretty much all worn off the 411G [ATTACH=CONFIG]388879[/ATTACH]

miriam 01-18-2013 10:24 AM

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The noses are similar but oh so different. Singer 401G
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miriam 01-18-2013 10:25 AM

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Singer 411G - this can be threaded to make a chain stitch! Note the threading diagram is different from the 401A
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miriam 01-18-2013 10:26 AM

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And the Singer 401A nose [ATTACH=CONFIG]388882[/ATTACH]

miriam 01-18-2013 10:27 AM

The tops of the G machines are different than the A machines, too - the bobbin is wound at the top of the G machines and on the front of the A machines.

miriam 01-18-2013 10:28 AM

I will show some detail about the treadling for those who are interested. The 401G is set up to treadle. The 411G is able to treadle but is not set up to treadle at this time. The 401A might need some major modification to treadle.

miriam 01-18-2013 10:29 AM

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OOPS I forgot to put up a picture of it with the treadle belt.
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miriam 01-18-2013 10:31 AM

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The belt goes through the front of the machine and down to the wheel through a knock out in the bottom of the machine. The back goes through a channel in the back of the machine.
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miriam 01-18-2013 10:32 AM

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The fronts of the machines are similar - you can see the place to knock out in the front of the 411G
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miriam 01-18-2013 10:33 AM

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The back of the G machines have a channel for the treadle belt.
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miriam 01-18-2013 10:35 AM

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The bobbin race from the Singer 411G has a little hook so that it can make a chain stitch
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miriam 01-18-2013 10:36 AM

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take a closer look at the threading on the front of the 411G machine[ATTACH=CONFIG]388891[/ATTACH]

miriam 01-18-2013 10:37 AM

Do you see a hook inside the nose door? extra thread guides outside?

miriam 01-18-2013 10:38 AM

maybe later I will post some more pictures

SteveH 01-18-2013 11:59 AM

thanks for this! Sorry to play the ignorant card.... what is the difference between the G and the A of the same model?

miriam 01-18-2013 12:41 PM

Oh I'm so sorry - that should have gone on the first window... The Gs were made in Germany and the As were made in America as far as I know.

mighty 01-18-2013 04:29 PM

Great machines!

ArchaicArcane 01-18-2013 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by miriam (Post 5795470)
Oh I'm so sorry - that should have gone on the first window... The Gs were made in Germany and the As were made in America as far as I know.

With feature differences too.
401G - treadle ready - 401A not.
Are there others Miriam besides color?

miriam 01-19-2013 02:24 AM

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The maps on the doors are different. Lots of cosmetic differences.
Check out the stitch length regulator differences.
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miriam 01-19-2013 02:25 AM

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and the 401A
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miriam 01-19-2013 02:26 AM

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and the 401G
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miriam 01-19-2013 02:28 AM

The German machines are badged on the lever plate.
The bobbin winds at the top.
there are treadle belt channels in the back and square knock outs with space for them to go in the front - the hand wheel is deeper.
Extra thread guides
Different shape to the top & doors - a bit different shape to the front nose door
lots of little differences.

miriam 01-19-2013 02:32 AM

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top plate inside - 401G
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miriam 01-19-2013 02:38 AM

The 401G was a trash day rescue a few years ago - I had to learn the hard way not to use liquid wrench, anything you spray in... WD40, 3in1 oil - it was dirty, rusty in places and locked up tight - I never really dreamed it would sew or was so special. I worked on that one for two years before I got everything working right. It still could use some more clean up. The motor is cracked. Speaking of motor and electric. The G models take the same foot control & cord as the Singer Featherweight - one plug two cords. The 401A takes two cords with two plugs.

miriam 01-19-2013 02:42 AM

zzz picture failure so I had to delete it

miriam 01-19-2013 02:42 AM

zzz picture failure so I deleted it

miriam 01-19-2013 02:46 AM

That was the 411G I think what pic I took of the 401 is above somewhere.
Inside the 411G disk cover door - note - the spool pins are broken and someone tried to fix them - the printing on it is very hard to read - the 401G is much easier to read.
picture failure so I deleted it...

miriam 01-19-2013 02:47 AM

another duplicate so I deleted it

miriam 01-19-2013 02:47 AM

zzzzz this was duplicate so I deleted it

miriam 01-19-2013 02:56 AM

sorry - some times I think I over do on pictures and things go haywire

miriam 01-19-2013 03:43 AM

A link - how I treadled mine - I would for sure test out t spinning wheel belt before I ground off anything to make it treadle.
http://www.quiltingboard.com/vintage...g-t184470.html

Grace MooreLinker 01-19-2013 06:50 AM

MY old ones look like these two in the picture together. they have sewed many a mile of seams.

georgiaclark 01-19-2013 07:05 AM

Thank you so much for posting all of this information, and for all of the pictures. I have read about the German machines, but never seen one. Now, I have a much better idea of them. I, too, am a vintage machine aficionado. And sad to say, a collector of them, too. If only I lived in a castle--I would have enough room for all the ones I would like to have!

Georgia Clark

miriam 01-19-2013 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by georgiaclark (Post 5797015)
Thank you so much for posting all of this information, and for all of the pictures. I have read about the German machines, but never seen one. Now, I have a much better idea of them. I, too, am a vintage machine aficionado. And sad to say, a collector of them, too. If only I lived in a castle--I would have enough room for all the ones I would like to have!

Georgia Clark

Just pretend it is a castle...

carolynjo 01-20-2013 01:04 PM

I broke my spool pin and purchased an inexpensive water color paint brush, plastic. I cut it in two piece and it works well as spool pins.


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