so frustrated!
03-30-2014, 02:10 PM
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so frustrated!
Hi everyone,
I have generally used my trusty old Kenmore for machine piecing, and have had no issues as long as I keep it oiled. I recently started buying other vintage machines and can't get any of them to balance the tension. In each case, I am able to get the top stitches adjusted but the bottom thread is mostly flat with just the slightest glimpse of loops from the top thread. I've tried adjusting the bobbin tension, repeatedly, and nothing seems to change. So then I try to fiddle with the top tension and it just makes things worse. I start getting loops on top, too. This is happening with my Singers (99, 301) and my newest Kenmore (1803). I can get everything balanced on my other Kenmore, so what gives? Any suggestions? Should I set both tensions to zero and then gradually increase each one to see what happens? I'm about ready to just get rid of all my other machines out of irritation.
Help!
Ila
I have generally used my trusty old Kenmore for machine piecing, and have had no issues as long as I keep it oiled. I recently started buying other vintage machines and can't get any of them to balance the tension. In each case, I am able to get the top stitches adjusted but the bottom thread is mostly flat with just the slightest glimpse of loops from the top thread. I've tried adjusting the bobbin tension, repeatedly, and nothing seems to change. So then I try to fiddle with the top tension and it just makes things worse. I start getting loops on top, too. This is happening with my Singers (99, 301) and my newest Kenmore (1803). I can get everything balanced on my other Kenmore, so what gives? Any suggestions? Should I set both tensions to zero and then gradually increase each one to see what happens? I'm about ready to just get rid of all my other machines out of irritation.
Help!
Ila
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03-30-2014, 04:11 PM
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Ila,
Tensions are not complicated. The big thing is they can be gummed up between the disks and other parts and look clean. That plays havoc with the tensions.
Here is a site that gives very detailed instructions on how to diagnose, disassemble, clean, reassemble and adjust tensions: { http://www.tfsr.org/publications/tec...machine_manual } and here is a link to a page in ArcaicArcanes blog where she gives a lot of tips on how to diagnose tension problems:
{ http://www.archaicarcane.com/fragile...ess/#more-1669 }
When I get a new to me machine it gets cleaned and lubed. The top tension is usually removed, disassembled and cleaned, then reinstalled and adjusted according to the instructions in the TFSR site along with the tips from ArcaicArcanes blog.
The bobbin case, hook assembly and that entire area is cleaned thoroughly. The bobbin case especially. Then adjusted.
It's not that hard. If it's got you frustrated, take a break and come back to it later.
Joe
Tensions are not complicated. The big thing is they can be gummed up between the disks and other parts and look clean. That plays havoc with the tensions.
Here is a site that gives very detailed instructions on how to diagnose, disassemble, clean, reassemble and adjust tensions: { http://www.tfsr.org/publications/tec...machine_manual } and here is a link to a page in ArcaicArcanes blog where she gives a lot of tips on how to diagnose tension problems:
{ http://www.archaicarcane.com/fragile...ess/#more-1669 }
When I get a new to me machine it gets cleaned and lubed. The top tension is usually removed, disassembled and cleaned, then reinstalled and adjusted according to the instructions in the TFSR site along with the tips from ArcaicArcanes blog.
The bobbin case, hook assembly and that entire area is cleaned thoroughly. The bobbin case especially. Then adjusted.
It's not that hard. If it's got you frustrated, take a break and come back to it later.
Joe
03-30-2014, 06:12 PM
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Thanks, Joe. I just got these machines serviced, which is one reason why I'm frustrated. I think I've got the Kenmore all situated. Tomorrow I'll look at the 99. I'll look over the links you included first!
Incidentally, I see you're in central IL. I grew up in Carbondale (southern, not central, I know) and went to 1st and 2nd grade in Urbana.
Thanks again,
Ila
Incidentally, I see you're in central IL. I grew up in Carbondale (southern, not central, I know) and went to 1st and 2nd grade in Urbana.
Thanks again,
Ila
03-30-2014, 06:26 PM
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Here is a link for Kenmore tensions
http://mysewingmachineobsession.blog...sembly_11.html
A little dried up oil in the tension will cause it to not want to adjust.
A backward needle will cause it to not sew right.
Tammi is our resident authority on tensions. I think I do mine more intuitively.
http://mysewingmachineobsession.blog...sembly_11.html
A little dried up oil in the tension will cause it to not want to adjust.
A backward needle will cause it to not sew right.
Tammi is our resident authority on tensions. I think I do mine more intuitively.
03-31-2014, 03:03 AM
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Joe, you made my day! I have an electrified 66 Redeye that I picked up a year or so ago that I have been terrified to take apart the tension mechanism. It's a bit rusty and needs to be cleaned desperately but I have been afraid to touch it. The link in your message above is EXACTLY what I need! Woohoo! Will be printing this out later this AM. And once I get the taxes under control, I'll have some time to play with it. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
03-31-2014, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by NJ Quilter
Joe, you made my day! I have an electrified 66 Redeye that I picked up a year or so ago that I have been terrified to take apart the tension mechanism. It's a bit rusty and needs to be cleaned desperately but I have been afraid to touch it. The link in your message above is EXACTLY what I need! Woohoo! Will be printing this out later this AM. And once I get the taxes under control, I'll have some time to play with it. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
66s are simple, just follow the instructions and you'll get it sewing just fine in no time.
Joe
04-02-2014, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by miriam
Tammi is our resident authority on tensions. I think I do mine more intuitively.
I don't know if I'd call me an authority... I've been beat by tensions enough times that I thought it was finally time to fight back.
Tension gremlins were my numbers 1 through 20 top problems with sewing for the first 24 years I sewed (during which time I took no lessons, never had my machine serviced and sewed the equivalent of maybe one shirt in the entire time, but I did some really nice knitting in the hook area.)
How are you making out now, Ila?
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