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Old 01-29-2015, 01:07 PM
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I had to pass on one identical to it at a church sale last summer. I didn't have the $50 they were asking at the time. That and my wife probably would have killed me. Another machine I regret not getting.
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that guy with the vid says these where only made in japan and started in 1956,, my manual last copyright date is 1936. I don't even know where 15-91's came out. This manual was in freds trailer along with 4 15=91's

anyway thats the same stand and control system as they used on there 2100's, less the knee lifter. it's cool how the switch parts around to make different models

today they would 3d draft, plastic inject, then cnc mill every part so that nothing would interchange

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Old 01-29-2015, 01:48 PM
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that guy with the vid says these where only made in japan and started in 1956
That can't be true. That machine says "1200-" not 1200U. The "-" means it was made in the U.S. (where all potted machines were made). It can easily take a more serious 1/4 HP universal motor.
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The 1200- machines came out in the 30s right after the 201-2. But you won't find them in Singers records until the mid 50s. The records called them a 201 until then.

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Me too! I see duct tape on the terminal and hopefully that's just tape on the handwheel?
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I didn't see anything attached to the presser foot lifter so is the knee lever hooked up or not? Otherwise it is a 201 in a standing only desk.
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Well, I got the info I posted from ISMACS, so if it's wrong it's their fault ....

My wife looked at that machine and said: "That's like the machines I used at Barrows years ago." She said it would be a good quilting machine. Unfortunately it's in CA and we're not ...


I told her she could use my 201-2 ... same thing basically. She didn't appreciate my humor.


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Originally Posted by manicmike View Post
That can't be true. That machine says "1200-" not 1200U. The "-" means it was made in the U.S. (where all potted machines were made). It can easily take a more serious 1/4 HP universal motor.
The potted geared machines can take the 1/4HP motor? I thought the point of all the people wanting to rewire the motors is that they cannot take off the potted motor that is already there.
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a 1/4 motor would be a standard clutch industrial motor, which defect the propose of that machine set up

singer did have 110v and 220V in the potted motor, on order you could get 34V Dc or 50V AC

the potted motor unit will unscrew
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Originally Posted by xxxxxxxxxx View Post
a 1/4 motor would be a standard clutch industrial motor, which defect the propose of that machine set up

singer did have 110v and 220V in the potted motor, on order you could get 34V Dc or 50V AC

the potted motor unit will unscrew
Not clutch, universal like an ordinary domestic motor only much larger. It starts up when you press the foot controller, which looks like a treadle but is connected by chain to the motor. The motor has the carbon controller built in. I have one in the shed if you want me to take pictures.

The industrial universal motors attach like clutch motors. Advantage of them is they only draw current when in use.

Can you show me a 220V potted motor? I have never seen one.
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I didn't see anything attached to the presser foot lifter so is the knee lever hooked up or not? Otherwise it is a 201 in a standing only desk.
It's a sit down table.. presser foot lifter hangs right about even with your right knee.. it shows in the photo, look for a round rod,
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