Go Back  Quiltingboard Forums >
  • Main
  • For Vintage & Antique Machine Enthusiasts
  • Is your machine picky about thread? My Pfaff 130 is! >
  • Is your machine picky about thread? My Pfaff 130 is!

  • Is your machine picky about thread? My Pfaff 130 is!

    Thread Tools
     
    Old 11-17-2011, 02:24 PM
      #1  
    Senior Member
    Thread Starter
     
    MrsBoats's Avatar
     
    Join Date: May 2011
    Location: Western Tidewater, VA
    Posts: 463
    Default Is your machine picky about thread? My Pfaff 130 is!

    Go ahead, ask me how long it took me to make a 10-Minute Table Runner. *waits while you guess* About two hours...but most of that was spent arguing with my machine.

    My LQS is rabid about cotton thread for cotton quilts, and carries Gutterman thread. My Nelco I take to class is fine with it, but the Pfaff...not so much. And it's fine in the bobbin, just not on top. The thread breaks every 10 stitches or so, usually more frequently. I changed the needle. I rethreaded. I loosened the tension until the stitch was sloppy and it still kept breaking. I dug out my copy of Alex Askaroff's Tension Fixer and started working my way through the steps. Is it an unbalanced twist? No, not that. Maybe the spool was too big? Wound some onto a bobbin and no, that wasn't the problem either. And then, somewhere in there, he said something about cotton thread occasionally being problematic for some machines. Aha!

    So I went back to my old standby, Coats and Clark All Purpose. I tightened the tension to where I usually keep it, and it was fine. Perfect, even. Wonderful long seams of nice balanced stitches. I finished the runner in about 20 minutes. Then I put the Gutterman back in, determined to make it work.

    It still doesn't. *Nothing* I do makes the thread not break. What gives? Anybody got any insight, or is this just one of the quirks I'm going to have to live with? How critical is the 'cotton for cotton' rule? I've used C&C for years with no issue, but I'm a newbie to quilting.
    MrsBoats is offline  
    Old 11-18-2011, 04:07 AM
      #2  
    Junior Member
     
    dusty222's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Dec 2009
    Location: Maryland
    Posts: 164
    Default

    My Husquvarna Viking Designer I sews just fine with cotton thread, but the minute I try to free motion quilt with cotton thread on that machine, I end up with mess. It loves rayon thread for free motion. My babylock loves all threads. Yes, I think each and every machine has it's own quirks -- you just have to figure out what it is and then baby that machine. With all the decorative threads available to us now, I think the rule cotton with cotton no longer applies.
    dusty222 is offline  
    Old 11-18-2011, 05:05 AM
      #3  
    Super Member
     
    Join Date: Sep 2011
    Location: West Texas
    Posts: 2,073
    Default

    My Pfaff 130 is not fussy about type of thread at all. It takes Gutterman just fine, as well as any garage sale thread I feed it. This is my main machine, and I love it -- it sews fast. I do not do free motion quilting, so I can't say how it would act with that.

    Dayle
    Daylesewblessed is offline  
    Old 11-18-2011, 05:48 AM
      #4  
    Senior Member
    Thread Starter
     
    MrsBoats's Avatar
     
    Join Date: May 2011
    Location: Western Tidewater, VA
    Posts: 463
    Default

    I'm going to keep fiddling with it today. There's got to be a way to make it do what I want! (I dunno why I think that-my computer never does...) I have a hard time believing it can't deal with something as ordinary as cotton thread, given its age.

    I also have a date with my OSMG this weekend about a different machine; I'll ask him if he's got any insight/advice while I'm there.
    MrsBoats is offline  
    Old 11-18-2011, 06:56 AM
      #5  
    Super Member
     
    Join Date: Jun 2011
    Location: near Peoria Illinois
    Posts: 1,638
    Default

    My Pfaff is a year old, an Expressions 3.0, and it will not sew with Gutermann thread. The shop I bought the machine from is very aware of this also, as they are not surprised if a customer comes in with this complaint.
    It sews fine with Madira, Sulky, and another brand I can't remember, so i just don't buy Gutermann.
    Good Luck trying to get it to work, or just decide that machine isn't going to play nice with Gutermann and use other threads with it and save yourself a haedache.
    BarbaraSue is offline  
    Old 11-18-2011, 07:16 AM
      #6  
    Super Member
     
    Join Date: Nov 2008
    Location: Duluth/ Superior, WI
    Posts: 1,038
    Default

    My old machines (FW-301, etc.) will sew with any thread I choose to put on them. My newer machines-not so much-they are much fussier about what thread they like. There are other cotton threads out there that may work a little better on your machine. I think each machine has it's little quirks. If your LQS only offers Gutterman thread, they are missing out on many other very nice brands of cotton thread, a lot of people like Gutterman but I find it very linty and much harder to use than some of the other cotton threads. That is JMHO not meaning to knock any brands. And please don't tell your LQS but I don't always use just cotton for my cotton quilts, I love shiny thread and use that all the time to perk up my quilting. hehehe!
    QuiltNama is offline  
    Old 11-18-2011, 07:29 AM
      #7  
    Super Member
     
    Join Date: Jan 2011
    Location: Utah
    Posts: 1,197
    Default

    My Pfaff sews fine with Gutterman as long as I use it on both the bobbin and on the top. If I use 2 different kinds of thread I have problems.
    gramarraine is offline  
    Old 11-18-2011, 11:42 AM
      #8  
    Senior Member
     
    Join Date: Sep 2011
    Location: Central NY
    Posts: 859
    Default

    My 130 (the one I used to own) wasn't at all fussy about thread. Sometimes I wonder if these machines are partly human.....hahahahaha
    Wintersewer is offline  
    Old 11-18-2011, 11:46 AM
      #9  
    Super Member
     
    Join Date: Apr 2010
    Location: Illinois
    Posts: 9,312
    Default

    None of my machines are fussy about thread. It would be a HUGE dissappointment if I paid big $$ for a top machine only to find out its fussy.
    Lori S is offline  
    Old 11-18-2011, 12:37 PM
      #10  
    Senior Member
     
    Sallyjane's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Mar 2008
    Location: Oakhurst, CA
    Posts: 727
    Default

    We just had our local sewing machine repairman as our guest speaker at our guild mtg last night. Wish you could have been there! He talked lot about thread, needles, tension issues...Some spools of thread are made to give up the thread from the top, others from the side. My pfaff has an upright post and a side mounted post to hold the thread. I think most machines do. From what I understand, unless you are making an heirloom quilt, it type of thread does not matter. Synthetic threads could outlive the cotton fabric, and also over time could cut into the fabric, since it is stronger. If I were you, I would just set that thread aside and use what works. Life it too short and you have too many projects to finish (if you are like me). Enjoy your hobby ; )
    Sallyjane is offline  
    Related Topics
    Thread
    Thread Starter
    Forum
    Replies
    Last Post
    kwendt
    Machine Embroidery
    13
    05-24-2019 06:39 AM
    Sillybear
    For Vintage & Antique Machine Enthusiasts
    6
    07-27-2017 10:10 AM
    Candace
    For Vintage & Antique Machine Enthusiasts
    20
    03-26-2013 04:38 PM
    J Miller
    For Vintage & Antique Machine Enthusiasts
    7
    07-12-2012 02:53 PM
    MrsBoats
    For Vintage & Antique Machine Enthusiasts
    16
    02-07-2012 06:50 PM

    Posting Rules
    You may not post new threads
    You may not post replies
    You may not post attachments
    You may not edit your posts

    BB code is On
    Smilies are On
    [IMG] code is On
    HTML code is Off
    Trackbacks are Off
    Pingbacks are Off
    Refbacks are Off



    FREE Quilting Newsletter