I have a BabyLock Quilters Professional machine on a New Joy frame. It is a short arm setup. It is the first system I ever had, and I bought it used. It took me some time to get used to it, but after lots of practice, practice....you know. I do edge to edge using pantograph patterns, my own version of loopy swirly random design, and now I have started using stencils to do more custom type designs. Although the quilting space is somewhat limited, if you are creative and patient you can figure out how to do larger designs in "rows", just connecting the new row with the previous. That requires lots of starts and stops, but if you are creative you can work it out. I really like the pantograph designs, and now I am starting to like the stencils. Stick with it, and practice, practice....you know!! :-) ;-) ;-) :thumbup: