I have used a Grace frame with an Elna machine for several years. I loved it. I sold the frame and kept the machine. And I bought a Tin Lizzie w/ Grace Frame. I absolutely love it. $8,000. I don't have the computer and not sure I will ever get the computer. I recommend it highly. It is big enough to handle anything in my book. 10 ft rails. Support from dealers and manufacturers is excellent. And I live in Alaska!