I think sometimes my opinion of a machine is colored by the dealer so to speak. It is good to hear about some of these machines. When I went in to test drives machines for my daughter, I had to teach a dealer how to use their own machine (they couldn't make it do a buttonhole and thought the machine was broken). Needless to say, I decided to quit looking at that particular brand because the person who was going to do warranty/repair didn't know how the machine worked. I might have excused it if the machine had been a new model, but it wasn't.