Thanks so much, I have to pull it back out and see. Okay here is another question just in case. I am doing her first middle and last name. The first and middle fits perfect in the frame I am using, but I am bringing down the last name below and have to line it up. Is there a way you can bring it down to know correctly where it should go. Am I making sense? I already did the name with the last name. But I brought the last name too far down. I can use it but I thought if there was a way to tell when you are far enough down without hitting the name above. Does that make more sense. Now to go play some more. I should have tried that line, I kept trying the > which I still don't know what that is for. :lol: