I was in Michaels craft store about a month ago looking for newsprint pads for PP. They were closing out the pads that were the larger size, I think 14"x 17". The pad of 50 sheets was marked down to $1.94. But I can get 2 81/2 x 11 per page. I bought 6 of them and cut it down. Works good. Appears to be the same as Carol Doak weight wise but maybe a slightly rougher finish. I am set for paper for a while now. I also have some vellum for the really intricate PP patterns with tiny little pieces.